From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Mar 30 19:35:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail7.nc.rr.com (fe7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0758A37B419 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:35:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from i8k.babbleon.org ([66.57.85.154]) by mail7.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 30 Mar 2002 22:35:05 -0500 Received: by i8k.babbleon.org (Postfix, from userid 111) id 930E3BA05; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 22:34:35 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Brian T.Schellenberger To: Mike Meyer Subject: Re: Packages and Ports [pkg vs portupgrade?] Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 22:34:35 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: Peter Leftwich , Jonathan Arnold , Zach Barnett , FreeBSD Questions References: <20020329204644.V81735-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> <20020330221500.95097BA05@i8k.babbleon.org> <15526.33340.92839.452773@guru.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <15526.33340.92839.452773@guru.mired.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020331033435.930E3BA05@i8k.babbleon.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday 30 March 2002 10:27 pm, Mike Meyer wrote: | In <20020330221500.95097BA05@i8k.babbleon.org>, Brian T.Schellenberger typed: | > On Saturday 30 March 2002 01:57 pm, Mike Meyer wrote: | > | In <20020330135112.AA22EBA05@i8k.babbleon.org>, Brian T.Schellenberger | > | > typed: | > | > The only reason I can think of to do things the "traditional" Unix | > | > way is if the port isn't getting a recent enough version of the | > | > software or is somehow broken. | > | | > | How about if you want to know how to install the software in question | > | on a non-FreeBSD machine? | > | > Ummm . . . did you get off at the wrong universe? | > | > Well, the original question was about packages and ports. | > And this *is* a FreeBSD mailing list. | > I think a context was implied here. | | Right. We're talking about reasons for wanting to install from the | tarball on a FreeBSD machine which as a port. Having easy access to a | FreeBSD machine but wanting to know how to deal with some software on | non-freebsd machines isn't unheard of. Especially if you make a living | helping people with that other software, and don't want to limit your | people running it on FreeBSD. | | > Besides, don't think that packages would work very well on a non-FreeBSD | > machine, either. | | Correct. That's when you want to know how to install it from the | tarball. Just because the port exists doesn't mean you can't do that | on a FreeBSD machine. | | > | I'd also add wanting a different | > | configuration than any you can get with the port, as it's not clear | > | that that qualifies as "somehow broken". | > | > I was *discussing* how to use ports to get a different configuration than | > you can install with a port. | > I don't think you read my original mail very carefully. | | I don't think you read my reply very carefully. Or would you care to | explain how to get my favorited configuration of Apache - which uses | the python module, a postgress authentication module, with dynamic | module loading turned off - to build from ports? I already have. Use the ports to "build patch" so that you get the soruce downloaded and patched automatically; then change to the work directory and continue as you would with a straight tarball install, only now you've already had handy FreeBSD patches installed. Which is, of course, exactly what my first mail message said. Are you *sure* you read it? | | http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org <-- GOOD GUYS --> http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message