From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 18 15:26:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC59416A41F for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:26:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CFD43D48 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:26:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j7IFQdHa011434; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:26:39 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id j7IFQcic011433; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:26:38 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:26:38 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Alexander Leidinger Message-ID: <20050818152638.GA10363@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <20050817195839.GA22027@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <20050818113949.kciryykkso00ko8k@netchild.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050818113949.kciryykkso00ko8k@netchild.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu Cc: Brooks Davis , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: prebuild sanity checks X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:26:40 -0000 --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 11:39:49AM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Brooks Davis wrote: >=20 > >This started me wondering if we shouldn't have a few sanity checks in > >the build process so we refuse to build if the environment is missing > >some really critical things. Obviously, we can't test everything since > >it would take too long even if we had appropriate tests, but a few > >checks might save some hair pulling. For this particular case, I can > >think of two major ways to do it. First, we could just require that > >/dev/null exist to do anything. That's probably a bit intrusive though. >=20 > I don't think so. A lot of software depends upon it, e.g. configure scrip= ts > and even parts of our ports collection. Some parts may not produce unexpe= ted > results if it isn't available, even when it it used, but not having=20 > /dev/null > is a hack in this case and we shouldn't approve this misuse of the softwa= re. > So I think this isn't intrusive at all. Should I look at working up a patch? > >Another option might be a new variable (or variables) that ports that > >tend to break spectacularly and unobviously can set like: > > > >BUILD_DEVS=3D null zero > > > >Does this seem like a reasonable thing to do? >=20 > If you realy only talk about /dev/*: I object to make it a part of=20 > individual > makefiles. Either we depend on the common devs globally, or not at all. > Everything else is a maintainance nightmare (99% of the maintainers do/wi= ll > not test in such a restricted environment). OK, I'll forget about this idea. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDBKiuXY6L6fI4GtQRAjQLAJ4gcRZ4fXWJv72thr7l8m+ztbA0JQCeNxak 3HYuvAiYPckSCcwbYShwQy4= =Lf6m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA--