From owner-freebsd-arch Mon Oct 9 21:54:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE23737B66D for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (doconnor@cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03384; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:21:40 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200010100435.VAA18406@usr01.primenet.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:21:40 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Terry Lambert Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc inetd.conf Cc: (Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven) Cc: (Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven) , (Warner Losh) , (Matt Dillon) , (Poul-Henning Kamp) , arch@FreeBSD.ORG, (Daniel Eischen) , (Kris Kennaway) Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-Oct-00 Terry Lambert wrote: > Won't this make it difficult to bootstrap a headless 1U box > from a Windows or Macintosh box? Download an SSH client for Windows or the Mac. A quick web search shows up several. > I'd bootstrap it from FreeBSD, but of course, FreeBSD can't > use my Winmodem, so I'm left with no connection to the net, > or no ssh to the 1U box, take your pick. Get a PCMCIA modem? > I guess we could all go out and buy a PCMCIA modem for our > laptops, just so that we can have telnet and ftp disabled by > default... Uhh, the number of people who have a laptop with a winmodem, no PCMCIA modem, and no SSH client for Windows who bootstrap 1U RU servers is pretty small. Go and download one and put yourself in the majority :) > Personally, I think this one-upmansship with OpenBSD is silly; > no one is "secure by default", and anyone claiming they are is > just leading users down the primrose path, until the next CERT > advisory makes them out to be a liar. If you think its one-upmanship, good for you, but lots of people think that 'off by default' is a good thing. (and some of them even install on headless servers!) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message