From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 6 07:24:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC44416A403; Wed, 6 Dec 2006 07:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DFE43CA7; Wed, 6 Dec 2006 07:24:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A5D17C.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.209.124]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C3F2E1AB; Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:24:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B885B4C6C; Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:24:21 +0100 (CET) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id kB67OKqY047467; Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:24:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:24:20 +0100 Message-ID: <20061206082420.8uom4bi9wggkss0w@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:24:20 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Daniel Eischen References: <456E5DAB.10608@FreeBSD.org> <4572834B.80500@FreeBSD.org> <200612051629.23067.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) / FreeBSD-7.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-14.764, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME 0.00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO 0.14, J_CHICKENPOX_61 0.60, SMILEY -0.50) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Doug Barton , Rene, current@freebsd.org, Ladan , flz@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, John Hay Subject: Re: HEADS UP: compat6x X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 07:24:49 -0000 Quoting Daniel Eischen (from Tue, 5 Dec 2006 =20 18:22:41 -0500 (EST)): > On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, John Baldwin wrote: >> Yes, but it doesn't hurt to just bump things now. I actually agree with >> John's argument that it is beneficial to allow folks on current to safely >> use -stable apps by doing the library bump at first breakage. =20 >> Granted, after >> 7.0 that policy will be obsolete, but it is still relevant for 7-current.= :) >> Heck, why not just enable symbol versioning in current by default now >> anyways? > > I'm waiting until after the GCC import because that should > change the way dependencies are recorded in shared libraries, > which really would force everyone to rebuild everything all > over again. After the GCC import, we should bump all the > libraries and enable symbol versioning, and hopefully you'll > only have to rebuild things once. We have several upcomming stuff which ideally should be coordinated =20 here. The symbol versioning (and the corresponding bump of the version =20 of some libs) results in the need to rebuild everything, and the =20 import of X.org 7.x would result in the need to rebuild some ports =20 (when an user wants to update). I don't know if the import of gcc4 =20 will need a rebuild of everything too. Could all involved people please speak with each other (or tell us you =20 did already) and try to coordinate a little bit? Bye, Alexander. --=20 People are beginning to notice you. Try dressing before you leave the house. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137