From owner-freebsd-current Tue Dec 14 11: 4:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D850C1527D for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:04:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA81392 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:04:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:04:32 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199912141904.LAA81392@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes ) In-Reply-To: <5915.945196712@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Recipient list trimmed down to just the list. dhw] >Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:38:32 +0100 >From: Poul-Henning Kamp >.... >It would make more sense, considering the way FreeBSD is distributed for >/usr/local to be a mountpoint than for /usr to be a mountpoint. It's hardly impossible for both to be mountpoints. :-} >/var is traditionally a mountpoint to keep the logs out of harms >way (and vice versa), but /usr never had that level of justification. >It is getting even less justifiable as time progress. The last >sensible argument we had for it was the "load the filesystem from >the first 1024 cylinders or bust" problem. Somehow, I'm getting a feeling of deja vu [sorry about the loss of diacritical marks], reflecting on SunOS (both 4.x & 5.x), where /bin is a symlink to /usr/bin, and /lib is a symlink to /usr/lib. All of which reminds me of a singularly memorable time when I came in to (then-)work, where I had my (personal) Sun 3/60 in use as my workstation, and found that it had re-booted, but failed to switch to multi-user mode. Shortening this story, it turns out that /etc/fstab was no longer present. And it had been so long since I had paid any attention to the filesystems, I didn't know what the name of the partition for /usr was. And this was the only SunOS 4.x box in the shop. So... I didn't have access to such user-level programs as "ls", for example. Shell built-ins, especially "echo", along with redirection (to fabricate a skeleton /etc/fstab enough to get boot-strapped) saved the day... and I learned a little. :-} Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message