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Date:      Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:16:06 -0400
From:      Boris Kochergin <spawk@acm.poly.edu>
To:        Jeffrey Goldberg <jeffrey@goldmark.org>
Cc:        Mail List - Mailman <mailman-users@python.org>, Mel Flynn <mel.flynn+fbsd.ports@mailing.thruhere.net>, Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com>, FreeBSD Ports List <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, jmelo@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Multiple instances of Mailman on FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <4A834D36.7040408@acm.poly.edu>
In-Reply-To: <C2726724-3BBA-49BA-A1BA-8F2D25A90241@goldmark.org>
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Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
> On Aug 12, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Mel Flynn wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday 12 August 2009 11:40:47 Bill Moran wrote:
>
>>> Were it me, I'd add jails to the system. [...] That's obviously not 
>>> the only way to get what you want, just my
>>> suggestion.
>>
>> And mine.
>
> Thank you and Bill for the jail suggestion.  I've never played with 
> jails, as I really only have one public IP address available.
You could assign each jail an RFC 1918 private address and perform NAT 
for them on the host system. I do this with PF and it works like a charm.

-Boris
>> FORCE_PKG_REGISTER abuse will hurt you sooner or later.
>
> I am living in fear of that.
>
>> If you must, then set PKG_DBDIR, PORT_DBDIR and PREFIX correctly.
>
> I don't understand the Package and Port databases well enough to 
> actually set them correctly, so I do suspect that I am causing trouble 
> for myself this way.
>
>> But things get much easier if you use seperate jails and a postfix in 
>> mailhub mode on the main IP
>> if you have only one incoming IP.
>
> Ah.  I hadn't thought of that.  I do only have one IP.  I hadn't 
> realized that I could set up private addresses on the same host.  
> Would the postfix on the main IP be able to run scripts that are on 
> individual jails?  If not, I'd have to set up a listening postfix in 
> each jail which would accept mail forwarded to it only from the main 
> IP.  For outgoing mail, mailman can talk SMTP to a "remote" mail 
> server.  Another point of confusion with jails is that the HTTP 
> interface for mailman would need to be on the public IP, but would 
> need to access the appropriate mailman data that live within jails.
>
> So I really think that unless I can do full jails, each with their own 
> SMTP and HTTP daemons on their own public IPs, this would be very 
> complicated to maintain.  But I am only guessing here as I don't 
> really know what can and can't be done easily with jails.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -j
>



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