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[74.125.224.41]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 00721157ae682-7990a678f18sm13068537b3.39.2026.03.10.01.22.03 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Mar 2026 01:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yx1-f41.google.com with SMTP id 956f58d0204a3-64ad46a44easo11254673d50.0 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2026 01:22:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCXgvRJU+NDBFa7Mi5hHzEaubd5nCY1IfbkK2BB1iTSRNe6c4ckRE3GpRMIi5RDsAdObP3089XTSBUOQct9v52nx7O3cYR5H@freebsd.org X-Received: by 2002:a05:690e:bcf:b0:64c:a7d9:e1dc with SMTP id 956f58d0204a3-64d14061e48mr13218117d50.4.1773130923365; Tue, 10 Mar 2026 01:22:03 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Commits to the main branch of the FreeBSD ports repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-ports-main List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org Sender: owner-dev-commits-ports-main@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <69aef1a8.4147d.6669a453@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <5xdq2qbbcr2h75y4zziudbo7cwx4pm6d7s3q3imk77z3t6iodj@vhv2jrsqfmag> <8677eed4-c8a3-4aee-8305-f440a46d1b90@FreeBSD.org> <2b8a655a-c83c-498f-a0d8-3b425bbfd88d@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <2b8a655a-c83c-498f-a0d8-3b425bbfd88d@FreeBSD.org> From: Gleb Popov Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2026 11:21:35 +0300 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: AaiRm51YU23pmBHqK-Fl4nOuWKgyUv5g6VB3WC29qYDeIXKienEuUwSDArxVsis Message-ID: Subject: Re: git: 60817c50b4c8 - main - Mk/Uses: Add certs.mk to handle dependency on security/ca_root_nss To: Yuri Cc: ports-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4fVRgd1f00z3hVK X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Tue, Mar 10, 2026 at 11:04=E2=80=AFAM Yuri wrote: > > On 3/10/26 00:51, Gleb Popov wrote: > > It does. A Uses module must have an added value. > > Ease of use, elegance, and fewer characters and lines is value. Copy-pasting a canonical *_DEPENDS line is as easy as writing "USES=3Dcerts= ". Elegance is subjective. > This sounds nice on paper but the reality begs to differ. > portmgr review requests often remain unanswered for months or years. portmgr is slow, this is true. But this does not give you an excuse to do whatever you want. If you want to change something, do it from the inside - apply for portmgr-lurker, become a member, then change the policy or push whatever you want without looking back on other committers. But in your current position you can't be acting as a lone wolf. I'd like to remind you about numerous ports of yours that require updating [1] [2] [3] and AI prompt stuff that you put under Tools/scripts without any usage exam= ples. It'd be great if you focus on these issues first. [1] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D289342 [2] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D289570 [3] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D289582