From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Nov 6 16:37:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914A137B479 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:37:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA12412; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:33:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAKRayQk; Mon Nov 6 17:13:01 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26447; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:16:44 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200011070016.RAA26447@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Installation: what to (not) do about it To: jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com (Jordan Hubbard) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 00:16:11 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert), ignacioc@avantel.net (Ignacio Cristerna), freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <66527.973550984@winston.osd.bsdi.com> from "Jordan Hubbard" at Nov 06, 2000 02:49:44 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > The software isn't severable, and it's not layered. If the > > NetBSD rc files go in, then you will have a talking point. > > No relevance to the current point. A proper upgrade issue will take > advantage of such abstractions where they exist and whap over them > with a blunt object where they do not. There will never be enough > "layers" to make an upgrade totally painless and a mixture of both > approaches will always, to some degree, be necessary. That's a silly statement. > > I seem to remember that FreeBSD started out with proprietary bits > > in its installer. > > Your memory is flawed. 386BSD 0.1. FreeBSD 1.0 had an aggregation copyright; you could download it, but not burn and sell your own, because of this. This was later relaxed. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message