From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 3 08:42:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8761065674; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAE58FC1A; Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so2969955ywe.13 for ; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:42:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:cc:x-mailer; bh=Ts6MiySHIzVEznAZ3aCefm7lOQIkchlTOy3/brTduPo=; b=VZt6yP5oE3VwfyTkaM3JihNerbM7CVeu5apwVJC44HG8Chelykcp6/L02g5iImMxbz gEH70ksooZRqQY+42zNNM8y4SP0CBWm2VNurK2bi5TXc+ruWltwP4tj+GgZ1gOKK9u2P R7VZp2yP3XqJ9dZQj4fXCxpKi8loyKGhV/nzU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:cc:x-mailer; b=gHt/0OexJx0DSId0Ch3Tj6Ftf/zwnbuo5WwE6BvKa/2PZr1tAZZO7BcHu67lxUwVvQ 3kC2vZ9uhch1nxjmG7bz1PQjVopw7ELwGCXJAbb2azXqcuT61PuhIau8s9XgWpP34By5 jerj1c4iW5KKbZAWBqE2kNZRjUxCKNTP3V9hA= Received: by 10.100.165.5 with SMTP id n5mr10172045ane.129.1230972137732; Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:42:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.93.135.17? ([32.158.165.165]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c9sm32893674ana.39.2009.01.03.00.42.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:42:16 -0800 (PST) References: <200901011055.n01AtQaN052763@svn.freebsd.org> <495DB15B.8040908@FreeBSD.org> <495DB9B6.4030801@FreeBSD.org> <495DC5AF.3050908@FreeBSD.org> <495E91F8.3010706@FreeBSD.org> <18782.37537.775290.682466@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <495E9E4B.8030905@FreeBSD.org> <495F12FE.8080204@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: From: Garrett Cooper To: Maxim Sobolev In-Reply-To: <495F12FE.8080204@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5G77) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 00:03:27 -0800 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5G77) Cc: "svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org" , "svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org" , Doug Barton , Garrett Wollman , "src-committers@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: svn: head/usr.sbin/mergemaster X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:42:19 -0000 On Jan 2, 2009, at 23:25, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Doug Barton wrote: >> 1. Past experience indicates that your average _developer_ is not >> very >> good at estimating what the average _user_ will want as the default. > > This statement is pretty much self-contradictory. You are saying > that average developer is very bad at estimating which behavior > should be the default, yet you ("average developer") is vetoing > features that users (myself and others) report to be very useful. It's not to say that doug is claiming that developers are incompetent when determining user needs. Users are a very complex group and that is partly why test engineers and quality engineers exist; to help provide another pov on how software could be defined for more audiences' benefit. Just some food for thought from my perspective.. -Garrett