From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Oct 5 15:19:15 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7CB10AECEE for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2018 15:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd32.google.com (mail-io1-xd32.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CA6084698 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2018 15:19:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd32.google.com with SMTP id y10-v6so10925732ioa.10 for ; Fri, 05 Oct 2018 08:19:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=snscEp4dM3BJgbDdGyBYAuQVJDz/Wzzg3BsRrMpgQMI=; b=XXN0Khz0cPFy1I/z/NEYiyI1A7EG/tPB4Te1Q6uHtxfuJXmNesqsUMquUDTpZSR2NF vvtwdTJwdD416DyTj3XLf6noq9WcoIBXKzUyZ3efcYq9WeZfBd86bozlBv+OOhup05DF JC7qx9DEhRMAh+nzYtqFNwxoRugtNxqirKCWqzf5hRRIBXNjdWY7aKtxmmsVzC/MEX4Y S57iIWeWLf1bbSUg2WLnO2J0EKI6JN+csFshYiXxEkWxlIIaXFkP/9KpFOPzL3vxsAFz Zgc2bW2WmOjVXu9AdzGHOsmHCZLaetIcTx60xs9VNDF5fICPCGd9loDgG0jyad3ilX85 2zgw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=snscEp4dM3BJgbDdGyBYAuQVJDz/Wzzg3BsRrMpgQMI=; b=Hy+TBM5yiNl35tc47qP7jQC9TsunYD7xKHgTdM+Vvu4os+T1G48KX2+1SxD9Dj2hAf F1M0yNKk4l4XEZU3dUo2omNkDOg3o5PD8flbTCQHhpG6gmhKHFvW7Gcjj+DiRTrasFr5 WvW5oW8kxH4AiMQfy56Qgpm1HpLZEeL7Db1uS3DCoIMZkthHnjK5W4Pb25k6oJV4mm0m Z/zy9StvJxuxgHij+CyoF0PL4tiPydA2udwuIlSSDvY5PlVZNYsa+/PCnGwyJOcmX/R0 KW4Ea5GIBIrb6z5IBIX4c2IG2IAiwm+9xxF/+ERmnfaIL/7B3grDMR7VJZUCpZNyNorB hPCw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoiPynCAs0EWVY9vVKX4DHcJkkPLpYImuBGAtWX4Aze6jL1rISUe QUcCmPweuW+9Vht7R3/yrHQOFOFxhC6z6Mw6/s6kKg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV61jXpOSGyLgpR1pvuPa3nO2BFWPZ9cQ2ssSESrzF2xhZ+bNoH0fVPUc9YBrKNj6R32qJKruLeLeOkY744Eufm8= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:e715:: with SMTP id b21-v6mr8539518ioh.37.1538752753680; Fri, 05 Oct 2018 08:19:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181003210516.GA71565@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 09:19:02 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers To: Andrew Turner Cc: Brooks Davis , FreeBSD Net , freebsd-fcp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2018 15:19:15 -0000 On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 9:05 AM Andrew Turner wrote: > > > On 3 Oct 2018, at 22:05, Brooks Davis wrote: > > > >>>> Please direct replies to freebsd-arch <<< > > > > FCP-01010 (https://github.com/freebsd/fcp/blob/master/fcp-0101.md) > > outlines a plan to deprecate most 10/100 Ethernet drivers in FreeBSD 12 > > and remove them in FreeBSD 13 to reduce the burden of maintaining and > > improving the network stack. We have discussed this within the > > core team and intend to move forward as proposed. We are solictiting > > feedback on the list of drivers to be excepted from removal. > > > > The current list of drivers slated for REMOVAL is: > > > > ae, bfe, bm, cs, dme, ed, ep, ex, fe, pcn, rl, sf, smc, sn, > > ste, tl, tx, txp, vx, wb, xe > > smc is found in the Arm models (simulators) [1]. I=E2=80=99ve seen it in = the > Foundation and Architecture Envelope Models. I assume it=E2=80=99s also i= n the > other models, but don=E2=80=99t have a license for them to check. > Do we currently support those simulators? I see it is in the VERSATILEPB simulator that QEMU provides. Does that still work? Warner