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Date:      Thu, 18 May 2000 14:35:36 +0530
From:      Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
To:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
Cc:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD advocacy list <FreeBSD-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Book chapter on BSD published in Salon
Message-ID:  <20000518143536.A5288@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
In-Reply-To: <392381F4.B39DE5CB@softweyr.com>; from wes@softweyr.com on Wed, May 17, 2000 at 11:39:00PM -0600
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Wes Peters said on May 17, 2000 at 23:39:00:
> Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> > 
> > > >In fact, there seems to be much discussion on whether Linux is better in
> > > >any way, or even usable for that matter.
> > >
> > > Actually, some of the other chapters get into that more. The author has
> > > a strong pro-Linux bias, and characterizes the BSDers as academics who
> > > could develop software and coordinate their own projects but could not
> > > evangelize, promote, or market.
> > 
> > Which may even be true.  But he is in no way unfair to the BSD's, and
> > he is widely read among linux people and I think this is an excellent
> > "awareness" article for that audience.  If more people get interested,
> > more people start using it.  I don't see what you're complaining about.
> 
> Uh, yeah.  I'd say that pretty much sums it up.  The Linuxers seem to think
> of that as an advantage, where we think of it as being pure marketing bull-
> shit, the same thing they accuse Microsoft of.  It's a funny philosophy;
> you suck if you're better at something than us (code for BSD, marketing
> for Microsoft) and yet conversely you suck if you're worse at something
> than us (code for Microsoft, marketing for BSD).  I guess the philosophy
> is just that you suck if you're not Linux, and reasons and justifications
> don't matter.

Well, I don't think that article justifies that sort of outburst (it
nowhere says or implies that BSD sucks, quite the contrary in fact)
and I see a lot of BSD coverage on the linux websites these days,
nearly all of it positive.  Besides your best chance of converting
linux users is to say "here's another free OS, with various
similarities and differences from linux, and it has these cool
features, so you may want to try it out" -- which is pretty much what
Leonard's article does.  You can't convert anyone by saying "ooh,
linux is so crummy, how can Mr Leonard even think of saying something
nice about it, he's obviously heavily biased and a Stallman stooge..."

R.


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