From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jun 10 13:50:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11739 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:50:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11247; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:48:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dyson@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09808; Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:48:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dyson) Message-Id: <199806102048.PAA09808@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Copyright infringement in FreeBSD/alpha In-Reply-To: <199806102006.NAA24467@lestat.nas.nasa.gov> from Jason Thorpe at "Jun 10, 98 01:06:19 pm" To: thorpej@nas.nasa.gov Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:48:10 -0500 (EST) Cc: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, core@FreeBSD.ORG, cgd@netbsd.org, ross@netbsd.org, core@netbsd.org From: "John S. Dyson" Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jason Thorpe said: > On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:37:09 -0500 (EST) > "John S. Dyson" wrote: > > > *smirk* I would appreciate credit for my shared VM space work in > > NetBSD also. Of course, the similarities in the code could be > > co-incedental, but it seems very unlikely. > > This is a MUCH more serious issue than "due credit in a commit message". > I seem to recall noting that the vmspace sharing code was somewhat based on > FreeBSD's (although it is a little different, and the data structure were > more-or-less ready for it, and the implementation _is_ obvious) when I > committed it to the NetBSD source tree... but _I DID NOT INFRINGE ON > ANYONE'S COPYRIGHT_... that is the issue. > > John: So nice of you to reply in your typical "we love everyone" warm-fuzzy > manner, rather than addressing the SERIOUS ISSUE of a FreeBSD developer > REMOVING copyright notices from code, copied _verbatim_ (right down to > the comments), REPLACING IT WITH HIS OWN. > Again, it is an issue of an error (which Doug is trying to correct right away, as soon as being notified), vs. an attitude which you are showing clearly that you care little about giving credit other than on purely legal necessity. *sigh* so much for being kind and helpful to your co-developers of your software. :-(. This lack of kindness and respect for people and their inventiveness is why we need to play games dealing with legal issues. I guess we need the law to protect us from mistakes, and people who have no respect for others inventiveness. We need the law to protect both from mistakes (like the recent commits), and intentions. -- John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, dyson@freebsd.org | it just makes you look stupid, jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message