From owner-freebsd-arch Tue Nov 14 11:36:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC40B37B479; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:36:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAEJa1R13054; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:36:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA49406; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:36:01 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011141936.MAA49406@harmony.village.org> To: John Baldwin Subject: Re: RANDOMDEV inspired realitycheck regarding i386/i486... Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , arch@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:09:29 PST." References: Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:36:01 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message John Baldwin writes: : What is the current processor of choice for embedded stuff? Is x86 even a : good architecture for embedded work? That is the only place that I would see : the 386 still being alive... Timing Solutions has several 486 based machines. There are very few 386 machines out there still in the SBC arena, but I understand that the 386EX is still alive and kicking in the "put a cpu on the board" market. The random device seeding issue is still a problem. It must complete in << 10 s on slow hardware and << 1s on fast hardware. Mark Murray and I talked about this at BSDcon and he indicated to me that he'll be fixing the speed aspect of it soon, or at least in the fullness of time. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message