From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 14 00:59:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399D21065670; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:59:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE478FC1F; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p549A2EEF.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.46.239]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o6E0xk8s049138; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:59:47 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6E0jAQe008031; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 02:45:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o6E0xTdb014154; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 02:59:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201007140059.o6E0xTdb014154@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Ken Smith From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 12 Jul 2010 13:47:17 EDT." <1278956837.86120.12.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 02:59:29 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tools/ directory is missing on recent install media. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:59:51 -0000 Hi Ken, cc list Ken Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2010-07-12 at 17:38 +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi Hackers, > > FreeBSD install media has lost the tools/ directory from recent CDs & DVD= > s: > >=20 > > Quoting > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.h= > tml > > ... to resize your partitions and make space for FreeBSD. The > > tools directory on the CDROM contains two free software > > tools which can carry out this task, namely FIPS and PResizer > > ... > > PartitionMagic and GParted are known to work on NTFS. GParted > > is available on a number of Live CD Linux distributions, > > such as SystemRescueCD. > >=20 > > There is no tools/ directory on recent FreeBSD CDROM disc1.iso & dvd1.iso > > ( or on memstick.img, no suprise as recent ) > > Maybe an older disc1.iso ran out of room, > > & tools/ got dropped & forgotten, not replaced for next release ? > > It wasn't a size issue that made me stop bothering to put the tools/ > directory on, it was more an issue of the tools just not being current > any more and not having an idea of what to replace them with. At > the point I stopped putting them on the media the world had gotten > to the point any tools that can't handle NTFS were useless. Ah, OK. > > re@,=20 > > I suggest consider regularising [scripts ?] to avoid > > inconsistent prepend of .../FreeBSD-... to some image names. > > FreeBSD- is consistently prepended to all the images that have been > generated past the date we decided to start prepending FreeBSD- to > the image names. Images that were generated before we decided > to start prepending FreeBSD- to the image names consistently do > not have FreeBSD- prepended to them... :-) OK :-) > > dvd1.iso script author, > > Please consider adding tools/ > > We might currently be losing some new people, tempted to > > try BSD, who need to first download a Linux image with disk > > partition shrinker (to run under Linux or MS, whatever), > > who then may think: > > "Why now dowload a BSD DVD too, Let's continue > > installing with this Linux DVD in the drive." > > It won't happen in time for 8.1 but I'll try to invest some time > in digging up reasonable replacements for the tools that had been > there. Thanks for passing on your friend's suggestion. Thanks to Gary Jennejohn for finding the URL :-) I removed the 80G NTFS & installed another larger disc (dmesg success report sent to re@). If I learn NTFS crunchers, & have useful comments I'll email you notes. Thanks Ken ! Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text. Not HTML, Not quoted-printable, Not Base64.