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On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 03:30:19PM -0500, Kevin Lyons wrote:

> Is there an ACM or IEEE article that quantifies this?

You can not write an accurate assessment of potential vulnerabilites, only 
discovered ones.

It does not take a genius to work out that it only takes one line of badly 
written code to introduce a vulnerability. It does not take a genius to 
realise that badly written code is as much a management issue as any other.

It certainly does not take a genius to asset that well written code 
impregnable code is well written and impregnable no matter how many lines of 
code it is made up of.
 
> >"Of late"? You've *JUST* noticed? Wow. :-)
> 
> I will rephrase, I noticed enough to finally comment.

Even so. :-)
 
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Paul Robinson
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