From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 11 19:22:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6B6E56 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:22:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm23-vm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm23-vm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AFBAA60 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.231] by nm23.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Mar 2013 19:20:53 -0000 Received: from [217.146.188.152] by tm12.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Mar 2013 19:20:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp110.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Mar 2013 19:20:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1363029653; bh=sPro008D4eBKB1kC8fPmVjnK2UH4gHQ3cD8IyRPh3/M=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LUY9EZ5S52gWd3uqpipX4fU0SHqG5oyr+ibSdqpGEDnd2tW1JAAjJH9NRumO+PmeTFRO1WIxCZLA8YPy9yG44JKKLI1YzASuL3tGVju6EbCaDoCLtfFJwDGJUfC+LVO1rUXm67SJK9nXdEOVR2t/JWvPLMeeEaARWid9EFmh0wg= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 407056.37728.bm@smtp110.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Te29dQcVM1mAxkanXkLI15p2MHHPCchqSTpTCIxaQcC4cyg aK3eIN6TWlzdpl25OlBafbhLoXq7BDYWm8K4eNxjxVuQ_29RFKj0t8xFmcSi vrzu0ZhydFbpLP7H77MzDhst2zsM9I5qXFX_I4rhAZP2mKncDoNQmCjcrofL H0Q4eDYuryzW1JQlhZ56MYaKNLrKalC5aF1c11xPdRjKu5MYGpJ1es5jg9ua 2s0PKgt9bkwz9Ict2LbolSSlgqsAseAEIRbzVrT4nEeTWdA3ZOYZ4VFk_oJV Sl0OhpjDqHXLhcWrM_1GikwJ36U0aBMExKhZdQxOmdLkbtHXPpUbegCEkqDc vBT5ReV5Mu4qiTAti7KpDtdMBubKASKUHFZWuOLWVAdJaLWNp5JvdNmRu2U6 WArsAjGBmbtUZi_3wPK67VxijhRUxRyf3amN4gHAiTuPB X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from [85.182.23.225] (ralf.mardorf@85.182.23.225 with login) by smtp110.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 2013 12:20:53 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <1363029652.631.123.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9 and Windows XP From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:20:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <20130309120741.DED57767@ms5.mc.surewest.net> <20130311135110.9da99d99cfe968f2d904acd0@yahoo.es> <87a9q9udkd.fsf@oak.localnet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:22:40 -0000 On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 12:25 -0600, Warren Block wrote: > Booting the same Windows install alternately in a VM and then on real > hardware may trigger the "Genuine Advantage" annoyance. This is true, but for some exceptional cases perhaps untrue. I wasn't aware about this possibility, but it does sound interesting to me. I run Windows in VBox only to use an iPad I won and to transfer documents from my *nix to the iPad. So my exceptional cases is, that I've got something useful I didn't buy myself. This thing, the iPad, has a lot of disadvantages, I don't pay for apps etc., but it's useful as a reader and for some other tasks. I don't need and I don't use Windows, with this exception (to use the "reader"/iPad). It's a XP without admin account and service pack 2 only, I don't give a damn about the state of this Windows or the state of the "reader". Ok, I made some snapshots, I use this advantage, but I could live without snapshots. I'm a *nix only user, the iPad and regarding to this, Windows XP too, fall into my lap. iPad and Windows aren't important for me, I don't need the security advantages of the virtual machine. I chose it, to avoid issues with installing Windows to a real partition, no primary was free and fixing the boot loader is work and I wish to access iTunes from my *nix ... however, since *nix tend to be problematic regarding to hardware, it can't harm to have a Windows to test hardware that does cause issues with *nix, to ensure that the hardware isn't broken. In my very exceptional, individual case it might be really interesting to share a "real" Windows install, directly booted and booted as guest in VBox. I'm thinking of making a backup of the virtual partition and to restore it on a real, primary ntfs partition or something similar, perhaps I can copy just the iTunes data and make a new Windows install ... OTOH I didn't use a Windows install before, disk space isn't expensive, so I'm uncertain, if I really want a real Windows install and if I should wish to have one, it's not to share it with VBox, but keep a separated version in VBox. I'm not sure that it's really easy to test hardware when booting it directly and to have completely different _virtual_ hardware by VBox. What would happen, if for the _virtual_ boot of XP, the professional audio card is missing? The setups might be that different, that it perhaps can't switch between a _real_ and a _virtual_ boot without much editing.