From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG  Sat Mar 19 22:19:01 2005
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125])
	by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A3616A4CE
	for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>;
	Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:19:01 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3])
	by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB4C43D2D
	for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>;
	Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:19:00 +0000 (GMT)
	(envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org)
Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JMJDb6025915;
	Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:19:13 -0700 (MST)
Message-Id: <200503192219.j2JMJDb6025915@cvs.openbsd.org>
To: Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:50:51 MST."
             <423C90AB.9030105@samsco.org> 
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:19:13 -0700
From: Theo de Raadt <deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org>
cc: misc@openbsd.org
cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
cc: Ben Goren <ben@trumpetpower.com>
cc: Doug Richardson <doug_richardson@adaptec.com>
Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support 
X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1
Precedence: list
List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>,
	<mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>,
	<mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:19:01 -0000

> Do you ask for the blueprints to the plane before you get onboard?  Do 
> you demand that Ford or GM give you the source to the fuel ingector 
> computer before you get into a car?  I'm saying that resources are out
> there that will allow OpenBSD users to manage their RAID arrays RIGHT 
> NOW.  No, they don't meet the goals of open source, but they meet the 
> goals of getting the job done.  If not having the source is a problem, 
> then that's your choice and you don't have to use it.  But why deprive
> people of a choice, like Theo wants.  Freedom is about choice.

FreeBSD users...  watch how Scott argues against free software.. and
cc's the person at Adaptec who he says we should not be mailing...

oh boy....