From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 1 9:17:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dan-gm.gm.dan.co.jp (dan-gm.gm.dan.co.jp [61.194.1.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A89737B400 for ; Wed, 1 May 2002 09:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 69248 invoked from network); 1 May 2002 16:17:40 -0000 Received: from h196.p970.iij4u.or.jp (HELO dan-pbg4) (210.138.202.196) by dan-gm.gm.dan.co.jp with SMTP; 1 May 2002 16:17:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 01:17:40 +0900 Subject: Re: Save a few hunderd kilobytes or a few hundred perl users? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) Cc: "Vadim Konovalov" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, perl5-porters@perl.org To: Mark Murray From: Dan Kogai In-Reply-To: <200205011556.g41FucoI039924@grimreaper.grondar.org> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday, May 2, 2002, at 12:56 , Mark Murray wrote: >> For me, nowadays 45MB is nothing compared to medium HDD capacity, and >> even >> my POCKET PC will easily accomodate it... > > 45 MB is fine as a port - we have ports that are way bigger than that. And we even have bigger ports that does take longer to build than 'make buildworld' the whole FreeBSD (which takes less than 30 minutes on Athron XP 1400 -- the fastest box I have at my fingertip). > As part of the base OS? Nope. The only functionality that we _need_ > is the basic language - effectively miniperl. But to sensibly strip down the distribution to just as much as needed does take a lot of something the most precious -- intellectual power. That I consider a waste. I don't think anyone objects that there are several hundred, or even thousand, files under /usr/src so long as it builds and so long as it nicely fits -- say, in a CD-ROM. FreeBSD 4.5-stable as of now is just 364,149 kBytes UNCOMPRESSED. Why don't you just untargz what Perl 5 porter has to offer and forget about what files should go and stay? You can easily install only needed parts. Speaking of which, the whole build process does not use objective-C (correct me if I am wrong). So if you insist on stripping Perl it may as well be unfair to leave GCC unstripped (I pretty much doubt GPL allows you to do so, however). Dan the Wanted for Bloating Perl 5.8 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message