From owner-cvs-all Mon May 14 21: 8:44 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mail.viasoft.com.cn (unknown [61.153.1.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3862137B424; Mon, 14 May 2001 21:08:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsddiy@163.net) Received: from William ([192.168.1.98]) by mail.viasoft.com.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13554; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:06:02 +0800 Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:12:16 +0800 From: David Xu X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f) Personal Reply-To: bsddiy@163.net Organization: Viasoft X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1029181302.20010515121216@163.net> To: Matt Dillon Cc: Kris Kennaway , Greg Lehey , Terry Lambert , Kirk McKusick , Mikhail Teterin , , , Ruslan Ermilov , Subject: Re[2]: [kris@obsecurity.org: Re: cvs commit: src/etc rc] In-reply-To: <200105150344.f4F3iVI45699@earth.backplane.com> References: <200105132342.QAA21879@beastie.mckusick.com> <200105142334.QAA05923@usr06.primenet.com> <20010515115630.H59553@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010514193332.A85465@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010515120558.M59553@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010514202707.B93481@xor.obsecurity.org> <200105150344.f4F3iVI45699@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Matt, Tuesday, May 15, 2001, 11:44:31 AM, you wrote: MD> I have to say, just IMHO, that as much as I like the concept of a MD> background fsck, I will never ever in my life use the feature. I'll MD> use the snapshots, definitely. But not the background fsck. It MD> is plain and simply too dangerous, *especially* on large partitions where MD> one has a lot to lose if something goes wrong. UFS just isn't designed MD> to be able to guarentee recovery, even if softupdates can't fail MD> theoretically. We would need a log or journal to reach the safety MD> factor that something like XFS or ReiserFS can theoretically achieve. Yes, I don't like background fsck too, it is too diffcult to manage, I'll turn it off on my machine. a nice solution is a journal file system. when will FreeBSD have a journal file system? -- Regards, David Xu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message