From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 16:38:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAC716A4D1 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 16:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from priv-edtnes14-hme0.telusplanet.net (outbound03.telus.net [199.185.220.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB01743D3F for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 16:38:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pfak@telus.net) Received: from diamond ([206.116.24.146]) by priv-edtnes14-hme0.telusplanet.netSMTP <20040108003800.LSEL2080.priv-edtnes14-hme0.telusplanet.net@diamond>; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:38:00 -0700 Message-ID: <000b01c3d57f$a5c4d910$c701a8c0@diamond> From: "Peter Kieser" To: "Matt Jarjoura" References: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 16:37:50 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Today X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 00:38:02 -0000 We don't need an installation program like Redhat, that'd make me change from FreeBSD like a burning ant. That's one thing that I like about FreeBSD, is it's easy installation process, that will start on any computer, and doesn't take two hours to do. Modular development tools are also a no-no, you can't compile FreeBSD 4.x with 3.3 gcc.. (afaik), that would be asking for big trouble. --Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Jarjoura" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 12:55 PM Subject: FreeBSD Today > What I think FreeBSD should have to grow -> > > A) A really good PR executive who cleverly removes the image of being > ultra-geek (or hard-to-learn) material. > B) A really strong installation program (something RedHat/Fedora excel > at). > C) Make the developer tools more modular (not tied to kernel) so that > you can upgrade them and change them, or not even install them if you > choose.