From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 28 21:38:57 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1DEB46B6C1 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 21:38:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Ck4cw3KnTz4mbK for ; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 21:38:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.26.123]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MTRdK-1kdbav4AMG-00Tjp7; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 22:38:42 +0100 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 22:38:39 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Jan Stary Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: auto partitioning Message-Id: <20201128223839.d203ea13.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:79Y/XJxB3nvh/aoe6vVMwQlDlOWJz5AgwGpI9dYNXoQslVPixoy G9b1CSjwgtjtIbAE1FhqQDsScfpsd5AoisMhEWsstdSUWnO1j4XtKFlSompGokUMG5P45fy N2EK0Kzk1yGtPvfjZlI/gMGHyRZ1fnz8YUVV0ZQ4UuYIxJa4kUNh7rF+4soJ1ggkIZ+0m88 z3e8lsF0Xx0arOaMmh3DQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:8nZYbh0XRRk=:8rYTtdnvhaDuuNZfxHWXFZ BQ7+tymZ9MtW5WuhEe5BwBZqa++RJNSQmCFqJ/x/7UZ0aHI4yJFPUA7QISl6qzQrJbjTuOM1g KCQRtlQsCPU3G5JVBR/NLGNvqLRWrGh9pGmX/xM7ngdjSuAURlKPFl4oaafVkXjG/HM+HWu5k RpmW4Iv3hLK3rXE5SAVxcfIYXl6ofqZofq2ifrO9Vyl0LPGyskHn2sFL+6n0g0NDpbFsqjDCd 7yh39CKA1JbpTeXt+i1gIPjSiSK+rR7uSqKGv0XJhwziMpI1//u6y6Z6X8+hvAJYwsi/wnU1p bQsiqj1k88KEW9EUvSgSRKL4Lkjwn1++UpxDJdy16+g4zBU6GM6/zpTUmpLL8caT8doEjybM6 PFV5hKGIRFPGewnHDFgcr5ewdUg1thhp8TPP9M5U0eT/98Far/0gbqFZwaR9Z X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Ck4cw3KnTz4mbK X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.72.192.74) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.40 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[94.222.26.123:received]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[217.72.192.74:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[0.998]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[217.72.192.74:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[217.72.192.74:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[217.72.192.74:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 21:38:57 -0000 On Sat, 28 Nov 2020 19:14:13 +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > Dear all, > > I tried installing FreeBSD (12.2 release, amd64) on one of my laptops > (after years of using OpenBSD almost exclusively, so please bare with me). > Full dmesg below. > > Taking the easy way, I opted for the auto partitioning in the installer, > which apparently creates one huge partition spanning the whole disk. > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ada0s1a 285G 7.1G 255G 3% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > > Is that intended? I got used to separating /usr, /var/, /tmp > and /home for various reasons. Is one big partition the > preferred way to do things in FreeBSD? It is a _possible_ way to do things, and for a certain amount of use cases, it just works. However, it can have downsides (such as runaway processes filling "essential" subtrees and causing problems), or stops you from doing certain things (such as having data partitions mounted noexec); you also cannot conveniently use dump / restore. The concept of "functional partitioning" (separation of functionalities) is still often used by server admins for good reasons, but can also be an advantage on home systems. The only definite solution is: "It depends." :-) But as you said: You wanted "auto", and what you got is of course one single big partition. The only thing that looks "outdated" (not impossible, but no "fashion" anymore): MBR slice and partitions. Why not use GPT layout? The common consensus is: Use GPT, except you have a good reason to use MBR (for example, multi-booting _could_ be such a case). And GPT gives you more partition numbers than traditional disklabel bsdlabel) gives you partition letters, which is also nice. And try to use labels if you can, it makes life easier. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...