From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 21 13:51:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDB21065687 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED498FC17 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so616123gwb.13 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 06:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.253.19 with SMTP id a19mr483285ybi.258.1303393905746; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 06:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q34sm2104190ybk.3.2011.04.21.06.51.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 21 Apr 2011 06:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3QFhMN2Xmgz2CG4h for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 09:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 09:51:43 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110421095143.7f10b67b@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20110421223143.Y43371@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20110421120035.3C3151065761@hub.freebsd.org> <20110421223143.Y43371@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: How to be an imap Client? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:51:48 -0000 On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 23:21:25 +1000 (EST) Ian Smith articulated: > On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:34:32 -0400 Jerry > wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 23:22:35 -0700 > > perryh@pluto.rain.com articulated: > > > > > Jerry wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 10:01:28 -0500 > > > > Martin McCormick articulated: > > > > > ... our entire network is on the blacklist ... > > > > > > > > Why are you blacklisted? It seems correcting that problem > > > > would be my first priority. > > > > > > Being a university, okstate.edu has students, most of whom are > > > not in the CIS department or in any way under control of the CIS > > > department's sysadmin. Need I say more? > > > > Actually yes. Ignoring for a moment the reply you sent me directly, > > conveniently bypassing the group forum, > > perry's message, like this one, was likely posted to you, cc the > list. That's long been customary on freebsd lists, even this > 'kindergarten' one; noone 'conveniently bypassed' anything. If you > don't like private copies, sent as a courtesy, just delete them and > move on. Wrong, it was sent directly, not CC'd. As per my stated policy, it was answered/referred to on the list forum. I am seriously considering changing that policy to also include reporting them as Spam. > The last thing we need is people here to troll on behalf of M$ > stamping their feet, demanding we change the way we've always used > these lists. You are referring to the way you have always done things. See previously posted comments on CC'ing and you will readily find that it is not a universally accepted method. I will admit that it is mostly the preferred method of narcissists. > > are you implying that these > > students are using the University's web mail for possible illegal > > actions and no one is policing that action? > > Ah Jerry, good to see you end your admonition with a little humour! > > cheers, ian > > "He only does it to annoy, because he knows it teases" -- Lewis > Carroll No humor intended. I have read another post that might also describe why the network is being blacklisted. I firmly believe that a diligent SA (note the word diligent) could attempt to correct this problem. From past experience, those who are blacklisted are so listed due to their own fault and for the protection of others. Attempting to bypass such a listing is a favorite of Spammers and their ilk; as well as those who are attempting a thief of service as per the conditions stated by the IPs owner. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies, ignored and/or rerported as Spam. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________