From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Mar 26 10:58:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5300037B71A; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:58:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2QIwSG21805; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:58:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:58:03 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Vincent Poy Subject: Re: Looking for a new laptop Cc: FreeBSD mobile Mailing List Cc: FreeBSD mobile Mailing List , Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 26-Mar-01 Vincent Poy wrote: > On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Mike Smith wrote: > >> > > > > > 1600x1200 display >> > > > > >> > > > > Aren't Dell's about the only laptops with such high res displays? >> > > > >> > > > No, the display originally came from IBM. Dell licensed it from >> > > > IBM... >> > > >> > > No, the 1600x1200 panel is made by Toshiba. You're thinking of the >> > > 1400x1050 panel, which is not "licensed". (The correct term is >> > > "OEMed".) >> > >> > Nope, I'm talking about the 15" 1600x1200 UXGA panel... That's >> > made by IBM and not Toshiba and I even remember there was a article saying >> > Dell licensed it from IBM and you're right the term should be OEMed... >> > It's the panel used on both the IBM A21P and the Dell Inspiron 8000. >> >> Funny, then, that when you probe it, it identifies itself as being a >> Toshiba panel (as opposed to the 1400x1040 display, which reports itself >> as an IBM panel). > > I don't have either the A21P or the Dell i8000 so I can't tell but > from people who actually have contacts with the engineering at both Dell > and IBM through the ThinkPad mailing lists and even www.thinkpads.com, the > 1600x1200 is UXGA and developed by IBM. Toshiba may have licensed the > techology and built panels as well. I only have a IBM ThinkPad 770Z > 13.7" 1280x1024 and this one is indeed IBM. I remember several magazines > such as MaximumPC and Cadence when they did reviews on the IBM ThinkPad > A21P HXU/HSU models and the Dell Inspiron 8000, it did say the screen is > 15" UltraXGA and is licensed to Dell from IBM... This is from a 5000e which was the first 1600x1200 laptop, AFAIK: (**) R128(0): Using flat panel for display (II) R128(0): Panel size: 1600x1200 (II) R128(0): Panel ID: Toshiba LTM15C162 (II) R128(0): Panel Type: Color, Single, TFT (II) R128(0): Panel Interface: LVDS (II) R128(0): PLL parameters: rf=2700 rd=60 min=12500 max=25000; xclk=10500 Note that Dell had a 1600x1200 display before IBM did. I've had this 5000e since October. :) -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message