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Date:      Mon, 17 Mar 2025 07:38:45 -0400
From:      Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>
To:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: mpd5: tun0 always get IPv6 address via SLAAC although not configured
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 3/17/2025 06:04, A FreeBSD User
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite"
      cite=3D"mid:20250317110444.2d1e4c28@thor.sb211.local">
      <pre wrap=3D"" class=3D"moz-quote-pre">Hello,

I'm playing around with a useful setup of a small router/firewall applian=
ce based on FreeBSD
14-STABLE and ipfw.
My/our ISP provides (alleged) ::/56 prefixes. The hardware used has sever=
al Intel i210 based
NICs, on of them is facing towards the ISP as usual with a cloned pseudo =
device called "tun0"
(in fact a renamed ng0 device).

The ISP is changing both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses after a 24h period!

Obtaining a ::/56 prefix and delegating the proper network prefixes to th=
eir NICs works with
port net/dhcp6 and FreeBSD's board tool rtadvd(8). The setup is textbook =
like and straight
forward.

All inward facing NICs do have the same prefix, a individual 8-bit networ=
k portion and a
(sadly not further controllable) 64bit SLAAC host address.

Problem: I never managed to obtain the ::/56 prefix on tun0! When using "=
rtsol -i tun0" within
the link-up.sh script of mpd5, the ISP facing tun0 interface _always_ is =
configured via SLAAC
(DHCPv6 on tun0 seems not to work in my case) and its prefix is ALWAYS di=
fferent fron that
obtained later via net/dhcp6 and delegated via rtadvd. This causes some t=
rouble identifying my
router for ssh access from the outside world utilizing DDNS.

Well, some internet HowTo's suggest not to provide tun0/ISP facing NIC wi=
th any address
(except IPv4 address, which is done by default via mpd5). So I declared o=
ne of the inner NICs
as the interface for remote access. But there seems an oddity:=20

no matter what I configure for mpd5, tun0 ALWAYS obtains a SLAAC IPv6 and=
 after several days
there are several valid (temporary) IPv6 addresses, none of them is marke=
d "detached" or
"deprecated".=20
How to make mpd5 to suppress obtaining any IPv6 address?
And: why isn't the IPv6 address deprecated?

In my first attempts configuring the tun0 interface, I used rtsol(8) for =
obtaining an IPv6
address which worked very quickly (and provided this address to my DDNS p=
rovider). In roughly 6
out of 10 cases the old IPv6 address is marked deprecated/detached. But i=
n 4 out of 10 cases,
the outward facing tun0 has at least two valid adresses of which one is n=
ot valid anymore from
the perspective of my ISP!

mpd5's link-up script is simply configuring tun0 with:

	/sbin/ifconfig ${wan_if} inet6 auto_linklocal -ifdisabled accept_rtadv -=
no_radr up

(and if desired having SLAAC IPv6 addr on tun0:=20
	/sbin/rtsol ${wan_if} &amp;
but this is ommited right now).

lin-down.sh does nothing.

Why is deprecating former addresses not working in all cases? Is it a fea=
ture that tun0
magically obtains an IPv6 address via SLAAC on mpd5? How to suppress SLAA=
C on mpd5?

Sorry for possible confusions, I'm new to IPv6 and would appreciate any h=
ints and tipps.

Kind regards and thanks in advance,

Oliver</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <p>rtsold is run on end nodes, but typically should not run on a
      router which is getting a larger prefix via dhcp at all.=C2=A0 rtad=
vd
      runs on the internal interface(s) but <i>not </i>on the external
      one; it is responsible for distributing on your internal network
      (and thus runs on the gateway but not clients); rtsold runs on
      client machines.<br>
    </p>
    <p><span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap">I used to run dhcp6c to get =
the /56 from my ISP, but switched to dhcpcd as it will do both IPv4/v6 an=
d appears to work fine.  With dhcp6c to get the /56 and the "older" DHCP =
flag for dynamic on IPv4 you need to use the following, but they are not =
used with dhcpcd as you can see they are now commented out:</span></p>
    <p><span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap"># Get a primary IPv4 address=
 on the first (near serial port) ethernet port
#
#ifconfig_igb0=3D"inet6 -ifdisabled accept_rtadv auto_linklocal"
#ifconfig_igb0=3D"DHCP"
</span></p>
    <p><span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap"># If you are turning on IPv6=
 then you MUST set both these lines AND look in
# /usr/local/etc/dhcp6c.conf and make SURE you have the correct prefix an=
d
# assignments for local prefix length.  Note that we only accept routing =
info
# on the WAN interface, NEVER on the internal one.
#
#ipv6_cpe_wanif=3D"igb0"
#ifconfig_igb0_ipv6=3D"inet6 -ifdisabled accept_rtadv auto_linklocal"
#ifconfig_igb1_ipv6=3D"inet6 -ifdisabled -accept_rtadv"

#ipv6_activate_all_interfaces=3D"yes"
#
# Ipv6 routing; we MUST be an IPv6 router for the INTERNAL interface to
# distribute SLACC IPv6 addresses to client machines
#
rtadvd_enable=3D"Yes"
rtadvd_interfaces=3D"igb1"

#
# Dhcp6c client (get IPv6 addresses; note that /usr/local/etc/dhcp6c.conf=
 must
# also be edited or this will NOT work!)
#
#dhcp6c_enable=3D"Yes"
#dhcp6c_interfaces=3D"igb0"

#
# Enable gateway functionality for both IPv4 and IPv6
#
gateway_enable=3D"YES"
ipv6_gateway_enable=3D"YES"</span></p>
    <p><span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap">dhcpcd also has an "exit hoo=
k" script call which can be used to push changes to a DDNS server and sin=
ce its "one thing instead of two" if you're on dynamic addresses and usin=
g DDNS its more-convenient than dealing with it in both the "factory" DHC=
P software for IPv4 and in dhcp6c for the "6" side.
</span></p>
    <div class=3D"moz-signature">-- <br>
      Karl Denninger<br>
      <a href=3D"mailto:karl@denninger.net" class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetex=
t">karl@denninger.net</a><br>
      <i>The Market Ticker</i><br>
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