From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 06:46:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AB15F82 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2015 06:46:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x22c.google.com (mail-ig0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0164E36B for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2015 06:46:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igal13 with SMTP id l13so8625640iga.1 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2015 22:46:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9sb8dFycM9HrDuLiMWhvMoA1aG5iEfNzwuWhmyySIyU=; b=fAmReg4vOr9Klw35chNmykDwUCH33PfEwVfZpk2lPal4NfhNMvjuhVcO13T01eSDvu Xs58CG1bp5+70kHkJhDs7yqEMou04TLZoy3zFebK1YcZWIYGajG4yz6cW0iaK8LU7A5z /OQ6oonXIlP8yDIaHlbRfPvRx/oZbEHqr7Vteq1J7HsLDmMOqNPNuQh3oUj66ww8tOS0 Is50oBXNB5sPS0ke2W1SxB/zObINHWGKBu8oEK90X8X6enn/uqXtEk+Lf4GU6sYEk9/Q vuZysZpIz0a8EzD3Fp1MxZqiyWZRrhu+IuQAn6E08QHhsg2+dn7O13EkKgRs01gPKALi yoEQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.111.168 with SMTP id ij8mr9214829igb.43.1425710768444; Fri, 06 Mar 2015 22:46:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.117.143 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Mar 2015 22:46:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20150307040218.GB85984@FreeBSD.org> References: <20150307040218.GB85984@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 01:46:08 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: www/nginx-devel Name Change From: Robert Simmons To: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2015 06:46:09 -0000 Here is a quote from the NGINX project: Which version should I use? In general, you should deploy the NGINX mainline branch at all times. You may wish to use stable if you are concerned about possible impacts of new features, such as incompatibility with third-party modules or the introduction of bugs in new features. >From this and checking the source code repository here: hg.nginx.org/nginx the development branch is "default". Perhaps the -devel port should be tied to a specific date on the true development branch? I am only interested in calling a spade a spade here to reduce confusion. If the NGINX project called "mainline" "development" there wouldn't be a problem. But it seems that this is a distinction that FreeBSD has decided rather than using upstream terminology and thinking. On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Sergey A. Osokin wrote: > Hi Robert, > > On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 04:52:58PM -0500, Robert Simmons wrote: >> The port www/nginx-devel should really be renamed nginx-mainline. It >> is definitely not the development branch as is explained by the >> upstream project. Calling it devel may cause users to avoid using this >> port over the www/nginx port. >> >> I have a detailed explanation of this in a bug report here: >> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=196480 >> >> Does this seem logical? > > Objection. > > The nginx project basically provides two versions of nginx: stable and mainline. > New releases of the stable version contains bug and security fixes. > The mainline usually introduces a bugs in a new features. This is why it has been > marked with '-devel' suffix. > > For stable version FreeBSD ports tree historycally uses the same name as a software > product has been named by author, for development version with '-devel' prefix. > > Also, I see no reason why user may cause to avoid using the www/nginx-devel port. > Think it's always up to user to use or not to use any port from FreeBSD ports tree > as well as FreeBSD operating system. > > -- > Sergey A. Osokin > osa@FreeBSD.org