From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 8 4:10:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mordor.obitus.org (as6-5-7.fa.g.bonet.se [217.215.117.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7807037B405 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 04:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mordor (mordor [217.215.117.118]) by mordor.obitus.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g38BAGY05294; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 13:10:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sauron@mordor.obitus.org) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 13:10:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Johan Huldtgren To: Erik Funkenbusch Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying current or stable with non-standard MTA In-Reply-To: <00c901c1deed$1905a3e0$dd8e1bd8@zeus> Message-ID: <20020408130824.A22533-100000@mordor.obitus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Erik Funkenbusch wrote: > I'm using qmail for my MTA, and have been running this pretty well for about > 2 years. > > I have is that I have made several modifications to the system to accomodate > qmail, such as adding sendmail wrappers and remove /bin/mail. The problem > is that ever time I cvsup and make world, these get replaced with newly > built copies of the original sendmail and /bin/mail. > > Are there any other qmail users on the list that have solved this problem? > I currently have a script to replace these everytime I make world, but this > seems kludgy to me and would prefer a more elegant solution than the brute > force approach. > > Any ideas? > > As a side note, i'm wondering about the viability of a formal change in the > layout of the FreeBSD binary structure to make MTA's (and possibly other > common base tools) more modular, rather than forcing sendmail on everyone. > > I realize that sendmail is the defacto standard, and there's lots of > software out there that assumes sendmail, however i'd just like a way to > have make world not clobber my modified base settings. Hell, i'd be happy > with some kind of way to "turn off" individual programs from the compile and > install (then I can install my wrappers and not worry about them being > replaced). Something akin to the cvsup configuration, perhaps. Please check the -stable archives, this was recently discussed. I think during the course of that discussion you'll find that all your questions have been addressed. - Johan _____________________________________________________________ "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - [Stephen Roberts] Obitus - http://www.obitus.org R.A.P.E. Records - http://www.rape-records.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message