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Date:      Thu, 08 May 2008 11:56:25 -0400
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@chuckr.org>
To:        gary.jennejohn@freenet.de
Cc:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Trying for a duplex printer
Message-ID:  <482322A9.5010308@chuckr.org>
In-Reply-To: <20080508094056.6b302ae3@peedub.jennejohn.org>
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Gary Jennejohn wrote:
> On Wed, 07 May 2008 14:43:32 -0400
> Chuck Robey <chuckr@chuckr.org> wrote:
> 
> [snip Kyocera FS-1030D]
>> Thanks, Gary.  Took me quite a while to find this baby, because it seems that
>> Kyocera's main site doesn't acknowledge of the Kyocera-Mita's products.  I
>> finally found out that it's a fairly big  monochrome laser.  I rather like the
>> color I get from the cheaper inkjets, although I sure would rather get one with
>> a FreeBSD driver.  Further, from what I could find, I couldn't tell if it was a
>> postscript native printer, and I am dead-set against any postscript native
>> printers, because I used to have one, and when compared to any innkset that must
>> use a translator such as ghostscript, the postscript native printers are (or, at
>> least used to be) dead slow.  Maybe it took them too long to transfer big
>> postscript files, or maybe it took the internal processors too long to
>> translate, I dunno, but when I had one of the original old HP laserjets with a
>> postscript cartridge, and I converted to using ghostscript about a year after I
>> got it, I was shocked that my print rate went up about 4-5 times as fast.  I
>> could actually get the advertised print rates.
>>
> 
> Well, I have an ethernet card in it, so transfer times are not a problem.
> 
> This printer _emulates_ postscript quite well.  It actually supports other
> modes.  Here's a list from the Technical Reference manual:
> 
> The printing systems emulate the operation of seven other printers:
>   HP LaserJet (mode 6)
>   HP 7550A (mode 8)
>   IBM Proprinter X24E (mode 1)
>   Epson LQ-850 (mode 5)
>   Diablo 630 (mode 2)
>   Standard line printer (mode 0)
>   KPDL (mode 9) [PostScript compatible]
> 
> Supposedly it can do 22 ppm single sheet and 11 ppm duplex, but I've never checked
> that.
> 
>> I suppose my next trick is to attempt to find out about glib's symbol
>> versioning, enough so that it could be added to the linuxwrapper.  Then (I hope)
>> I get the PIPS driver that exists for the Epson RX680.
>>
> 
> I wasn't trying to suggest that you get a FS-1030D.  I was just giving an
> example of a printer which works with CUPS in duplex mode.
> 
> IMO the next trick would be to look for a PPD file for one of the printers
> you have in mind.  If you find one then it would be simple to use CUPS.

Umm, I may be wrong here, but I thought the absolute minimum to get any printer
working (in cups, or in any printing system whatever) was a way to get a page
description language translator working (ghostscript is a good example of what
I'm referring to).  If you don't have a PPD, you can make one yourself, I've
done that, but you can't fake out the PDL translator, right?

Maybe, you meant that if you have a PPD, the chances of having that PDL
translator are very, very good, is that it?

I mean, well, like apsfilter doesn't need ppds at all, but it sure does need
that PDL translator.

> 
> ---
> Gary Jennejohn

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