From owner-freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Fri Apr 29 14:38:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B877B1FDAB for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citapm.icyb.net.ua (citapm.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635751A74 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:38:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from porto.starpoint.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citapm.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id RAA10562; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:38:29 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.starpoint.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1aw9Yr-000IUv-6U; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:38:29 +0300 Subject: Re: How to speed up slow zpool scrub? To: Ronald Klop , freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org References: <381846248.2672053.1461695277122.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <381846248.2672053.1461695277122.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1461736217.1121.17.camel@michaeleichorn.com> <08d59afe-c835-fa8d-0e52-78afcb1cc030@denninger.net> From: Andriy Gapon Message-ID: <169a2eb9-621f-4fc8-982d-9550ee9581cb@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:37:32 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:38:41 -0000 On 29/04/2016 17:28, Ronald Klop wrote: > Just like UFS makes an assumption about correct memory and correct disks? > > ECC helps ZFS as much as ECC helps UFS. > And without ECC ZFS provides more failsafes than UFS. But nothing is perfect. > You guys make it sound like ZFS has no added benefits if you don't use ECC, > which is not true. > > UFS < ZFS < ZFS+ECC > And UFS+ECC is somewhere in between probably. > As long as people understand the risks/benefits things are ok. One thing to keep in mind is that ZFS on-disk structures are much more complex than those of UFS. It is much harder to recover from some ZFS failure modes. (And there is no zfsck...) -- Andriy Gapon