From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 8 9:29:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com (imo-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC4E37B406 for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 09:29:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Bsdguru@aol.com) Received: from Bsdguru@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id n.9.17f6a945 (4328) for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 12:29:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Bsdguru@aol.com Message-ID: <9.17f6a945.2879e44f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 12:29:03 EDT Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral To: hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a message dated 7/6/01 4:00:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, billf@mu.org writes: > > Nothing BSDi ever did made any sense, so why does this suprise you? The > fact > > that BSDi didnt nothing positive for FreeBSD doesnt surprise me at all. > > Luckily, with this post to the mailing list you can join the ranks of doing > nothing positive for the project. Congrats! > I seriously doubt if I am the only one who is beyond disappointed in BSDI's "contribution" to FreeBSD. They didnt make it substantially more popular nor did they provide much critical support (ie important drivers remained broken, etc). The fact that they provided their excess hardware to some developers is helpful but not nearly the value they promised. The "people" they provided at trade shows was to promote their agenda, not FreeBSDs. Im sorry, but did anyone else see any acceleration in freebsd evolution during the bsdi period? Seemed like the same folks doing the same old stuff to me. Having BSDI decide what drivers got written (according to their own agenda) by providing hardware is potentially more damaging than helpful, depending of course on their agenda, which was never clear. All they did was help to tear down some very useful existing relationships, put a ridiculously expensive "distribution" in bookstores which most likely had a negative effect on the public perception of the project, and then funnel the entire mess over to WR who now has some other unknown agenda that apparently, many here dont buy into. Bravo. B To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message