From owner-freebsd-arm Wed Jul 25 5:37:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72B6737B403 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 05:37:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 80556 invoked by uid 1000); 25 Jul 2001 12:45:02 -0000 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 14:45:02 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: David O'Brien Cc: Dave Feustel , "Stephane E. Potvin" , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD for ARM processor Message-ID: <20010725144502.A80408@mail.webmonster.de> Mail-Followup-To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" , David O'Brien , Dave Feustel , "Stephane E. Potvin" , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010722124327.C575@zeus.videotron.ca> <20010722151056.E49508@sneakerz.org> <20010723213918.A736@zeus.videotron.ca> <20010724075128.C110@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010724175511.C59947@mail.webmonster.de> <001501c11460$9511c430$fa9f173f@dafcopreqlqo05> <20010724195941.E5825@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010724195941.E5825@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 07:59:41PM -0700 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer Sender: owner-freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David O'Brien(obrien@FreeBSD.ORG)@2001.07.24 19:59:41 +0000: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 11:49:16AM -0500, Dave Feustel wrote: > > Strongarm-based pcs designed by Chalice Technologies http://www.chaltec= h.com > > are available from Simtek http://www.simtec.co.uk/ >=20 > This brings up the issue of reference platform for the StrongARM port. > There is no one clear choice as there is for the PowerPC. Realistically, > we probably need to pick an easily obtainable consumer StrongARM product. > The Compaq iPaq comes to mind. However, it is not development-friendly > at the moment as it does not have peripherals such as built-in NIC, hard > drive, or serial console capabilities. the H3660 with dual pcmcia jacket gives all this (wavelan/ethernet/microdrive/sandisk/whatever). it is not very developer-friendly, though. my ipaq is on order, let's see what firmware it uses for booting... > Of all the products I know of, I like the CATS board the best. However, > the last time I investigated the CATS board, they were very expensive and > hard to find in the USA. For some reason $600 stands out in my mind. I > know of 10+ DNARDs in the BSD community, thus my preference for that > machine as the reference platform. the cats is non-portable, non-mobile ;-] i don't know where to get the sa1110 reference design from intel here in europe (i guess that intel does not want european people develop on mobile equipment) but this would be a starting point. AFAIK, designs like the ipaq are close to the reference board. my old newton has nearly the same configuration like the sa1100 edk platform (brutus). when i think about strongarm platforms i do not consider implementing settop or other non-mobile scenarios because pc102 or similar pc hardware is getting really cheap at the moment and the toolchains are broadly available. /k --=20 > Hackers do it with bugs. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- catch@spam.de GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 1= 0x --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7Xr9OM0BPTilkv0YRAv69AKC1iFepmqsYP03CjMZmZ1Dw2g8cdwCfZm34 0nu0K7t6UhuYzuQtgvtpjmU= =KZOH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arm" in the body of the message