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Date:      Wed, 3 Sep 2008 21:44:53 +0400
From:      Igor Sysoev <is@rambler-co.ru>
To:        Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
Cc:        Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Tor Egge <tegge@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: vfs.ffs.rawreadahead
Message-ID:  <20080903174452.GB73831@rambler-co.ru>
In-Reply-To: <20080903103846.T39726@pooker.samsco.org>
References:  <20080903095352.GA62541@rambler-co.ru> <20080903123955.GE2038@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <20080903124733.GH62541@rambler-co.ru> <20080903103846.T39726@pooker.samsco.org>

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On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 10:44:46AM -0600, Scott Long wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Igor Sysoev wrote:
> >On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 03:39:55PM +0300, Kostik Belousov wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 01:53:52PM +0400, Igor Sysoev wrote:
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>could anyone tell what does vfs.ffs.rawreadahead enable ?
> >>>As I understand it's used in DIRECTIO code that allows read data
> >>>directly to an userland buffer bypassing the buffer cache.
> >>>What I can not understand where the read ahead data can be placed in ?
> >>
> >>The operation of the ffs_rawread is more accurately described as
> >>bypassing the page cache. It creates the physical buffer that maps
> >>the user pages.
> >>
> >>The readahead is performed only when the supplied user memory region
> >>is bigger then blocksize. In this case, two reads are performed
> >>simultaneously, with both buffers mapping consequent blocks from
> >>user-supplied buffers. The read operation looks like footsteps.
> >
> >Nice!
> >
> >As I understand the size limit of one read operation is MAXPHYS, which is
> >equal to 128K due to LBA28 ATA limit. On SCSI, SATA, and LBA48 ATA this 
> >limit
> >can be increased. Is it safe ?
> 
> The value of MAXPHYS is unrelated to capabilities or limitations of ATA.
> It was chosen based on the needs to prevent an excessive amount of
> parallel I/O from exhausting the kernel address space and system memory. 
> In fact, the concern was with SCSI, not with ATA.
> 
> MAXPHYS can be raised, especially on 64bit platforms, but doing so also
> bloats the sizes of a few key data structures.  I've been looking at a
> solution for this, and I'd rather that people keep their MAXPHYS changes
> confined to their local trees rather than changing FreeBSD unless they
> also solve the associated side effects.

As I understand MAXPHYS affects at least on pager_map size: on modern
machines it's usually 256 * MAXPHYS = 32M, therefore increasing MAXPHYS
will increase the map too.

The 128K is probably good value and I do not suggest to increase it by
default, I just want to increase MAXPHYS to improve disk throughput
on some hosts where nginx serves large files (1G+) using DIRECTIO.

BTW, is it possible to change MAXPHYS to a loader tunnable ?


-- 
Igor Sysoev
http://sysoev.ru/en/



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