Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 16:26:07 -0700 (MST) From: Dale Scott <dalescott@shaw.ca> To: "galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu" <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD with Win7 and UEFI Message-ID: <F938A183-8BDD-4F3F-8B9D-942270D640E7@shaw.ca> In-Reply-To: <2641.69.209.227.251.1419803774.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <m7hfff$hno$1@ger.gmane.org> <20141226072950.GB13694@kontrol.kode5.net> <m7p8r5$jiv$1@ger.gmane.org> <alpine.BSF.2.11.1412281227150.86113@wonkity.com> <2641.69.209.227.251.1419803774.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu>
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> On Dec 28, 2014, at 2:56 PM, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> w= rote: >=20 >=20 >> On Sun, December 28, 2014 1:40 pm, Warren Block wrote: >>> On Sun, 28 Dec 2014, Christian Baer wrote: >>>=20 >>> This is a little redundant, but I really want to make this clear... >>>=20 >>> My motherboard is a Supermicro X10SAT. When the system starts, I can >>> press >>> F12 which lets me choose the boot device (basicly like in the BIOS >>> setup, but >>> an a temporary basis). This is a *motherboard* function, this is not a >>> boot >>> manager from any OS. The motherboard recognises both Windows (list item= : >>> "Windows boot manager") and FreeBSD (list item: "EFI OS"). >>>=20 >>> I have seen no other boot manager after the installation nor did I see >>> any >>> chance to choose/configure/check one during the installation of FreeBSD= . >>> The >>> handbook in rather silent about this subject too, which is quite a >>> surprise >>> to me. When I started out with Linux, everything was about being able t= o >>> coexist with Windows on a single machine. I switched to FreeBSD a littl= e >>> later. My first FreeBSD CDs were of v3.3 (that was 1999 and I am feelin= g >>> very >>> old right about now). The FreeBSD boot manager of back then wasn't as >>> pretty >>> as the one supplied with SuSE at the time but it did the same thing. >>>=20 >>> Is this an EFI thing or have the priorities shifted? >>=20 >> UEFI is a whole new game, utterly different from what came before. And >> FreeBSD's UEFI support is new. As far as I know, it has no provision >> for multibooting in UEFI. Code to do that would be welcome, it's been >> difficult just to get the current UEFI support. >>=20 >> Your boot menu suggests that Windows 7 is installed for standard BIOS >> booting. The easiest way to deal with this is to reinstall FreeBSD for >> standard BIOS booting also, with an MBR format. Then you can install >> the boot0 multiboot program, but it really doesn't offer anything that >> the BIOS boot menu does not already have. >>=20 >> Please also consider running FreeBSD as a VM with one of the many >> virtualization options. That has many advantages over multiboot setups. >=20 > There is a big difference: in last case you have the machine running > Windows 7. Just out of curiosity: do _you_ have the same level of trust t= o > Windows 7/8 system as you do to FreeBSD? If yes, why at all would you go > into trouble running FreeBSD? Just curious (no offense to anyone/anything > intended ;-) >=20 > Valeri For me, it's about how FreeBSD enables building and experimenting with syst= ems of applications in ways that wouldn't be possible on Windows (arguably = from a pragmatic perspective, not necessarily technically). Dale
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