From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Mar 15 17:01:19 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B57B1526A5B for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 17:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cse.cem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it1-f179.google.com (mail-it1-f179.google.com [209.85.166.179]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B28F70E7A; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 17:01:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cse.cem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it1-f179.google.com with SMTP id k74so960258ita.3; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 10:01:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2kYSnGKQ+b32tqkPxTipsUGP910N8SD9JLeb813B5r8=; b=LnZ+pqWxbl0vfs0ZZQL4OJ5mEtPL76yRKUsVKdr6xMnsaSRuJGOc2KTtNSi98/XgHv V1X7XEGQ/9Cqh1ThvSm7CRgjry7F20ROOY4VjLAMVFFSXlZJl8sRoh3oGgcg7SmUg3RY iWQZtqxc4+4cLvKHWHs7O6pcCj2XuIMH9F8HPzABn6a/mYQZCRKrmHPklwNC7q/fJNUs 9dxZmpdDbCKawjt8Z37FT4cSxpJOEH7eIazeqwjeq893jChIueVFIqP8CX6I1niRStbj eU+MnxZVbWHKly3nu4vqA8ljMypfREPGm+kQ7zOy8jcIpspWr/ircWcX7qRd7R0Kf9eI 8DbQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUUh2WDS3HJ4yBnYai667aXZ/ly13Id4McYRRSWRgBYP7373qIn QLOHxSsJFblpZKL8TVdh+j5l7xOr X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyUFhDZ5cbpjb0BKHGWfHW5Q0Fvo002I2pB29V63+nTsR6hVH4ulDpotJ3Su2edvJk4jpzndA== X-Received: by 2002:a02:9101:: with SMTP id a1mr3101572jag.50.1552669276821; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 10:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it1-f181.google.com (mail-it1-f181.google.com. [209.85.166.181]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o9sm1234190itb.23.2019.03.15.10.01.16 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Mar 2019 10:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it1-f181.google.com with SMTP id 188so11981500itb.0; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 10:01:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a02:4084:: with SMTP id n126mr2948134jaa.78.1552669275990; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 10:01:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190315151920.GC96870@kib.kiev.ua> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: cem@freebsd.org From: Conrad Meyer Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 10:01:05 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: VOP_INACTIVE(9): reclaiming space for open but deleted files? To: Alan Somers Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B28F70E7A X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of csecem@gmail.com designates 209.85.166.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=csecem@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.83 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[cem@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.975,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[cem@freebsd.org,csecem@gmail.com]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[cem@freebsd.org,csecem@gmail.com]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[179.166.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-2.85)[ip: (-8.23), ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.88), asn: 15169(-2.08), country: US(-0.07)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 17:01:19 -0000 On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 9:26 AM Alan Somers wrote: > Ok, so the man page is talking files which were formerly open but > deleted, but are no longer open. I find the wording confusing. It > seems to refer to files that are still open but deleted. Hi Alan, I totally agree that the wording could be more clear. If you'd like to improve it and want a second pair of eyes on the modified text, feel free to CC me. I appreciate anything that improves the clarity of our VFS documentation, especially given how complex VFS is. (In particular, if Andriy ever deleted https://wiki.freebsd.org/AndriyGapon/AvgVfsSolarisVsFreeBSD , I would be lost :-).) Best, Conrad