From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 15 03:12:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A70B16A4CE for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:12:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7727443D7C for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:12:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) hBFBADFR042945 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:10:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hBFBADjS042944; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:10:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:10:13 -0800 (PST) Resent-Message-Id: <200312151110.hBFBADjS042944@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Phil Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D354816A4CE for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:01:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683DC43D1D for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:01:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBFB1mdL032547 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:01:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hBFB1mNA032546; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:01:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200312151101.hBFB1mNA032546@www.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:01:48 -0800 (PST) From: Phil To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-2.0 Subject: docs/60252: Continuous re-installations for FreeBSD novices X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:12:51 -0000 >Number: 60252 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Continuous re-installations for FreeBSD novices >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Dec 15 03:10:13 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Phil >Release: 4.7 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Why not mention, prior to installation, that to get the sound card working you're gonna have to rebuild the whole kernel at some stage, and therefore you will have to install all the sources necessary to do this? Also, why not just add a couple of simple lines (such as device pcm) to the GENERIC kernel to try and pick up most of the common sound cards in order to avoid all this agony? Most newcomers to FreeBSD (like me) will be put off, and annoyed, by finding out about things "after the event" as it where, simply because the documentation did not explain things clearly, simply or fully prior to installation. Hence, numerous re-installations as the next problem is found out about later on. >How-To-Repeat: Continue as current. >Fix: A sentence in the initial Standard Installation screen, or in the "canned" packages selection help screen during installation. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: