From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 11 22:26:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC66B16A4CE for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:26:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7616B43D1F for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:26:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1CzjEe-000ElS-Tf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:26:04 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <1065300005.20050211231617@wanadoo.fr> References: <649200329.20050211081852@wanadoo.fr> <621dabed4fc2996ae4cb3a2929d6842c@chrononomicon.com> <420D24EE.40606@tvog.net> <805E7F3C-7C77-11D9-B134-000D933E3CEC@shire.net> <1065300005.20050211231617@wanadoo.fr> Message-Id: From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:26:00 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,PLING_PLING autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as NetBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:26:04 -0000 On Feb 11, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes: > >> many in no way means a majority. many is more than a few, where a few >> is a handful (3-5 or so). There are probably more than a handful who >> do it as more than a hobby. A lot of good people do it on their own >> time as well, and I salute that. But a lot of people like Yahoo and >> others (Apple probably) submit stuff that ends up in FreeBSD and they >> pay their people to do so. Lots of features, like jails as I >> understand it, started off by someone getting paid to implement stuff. > > I hope people are not being as careless as you imply. Being paid to > write code as an employee means relinguishing copyright in the code to > one's employer. If people are actually doing this for FreeBSD, then > some of the code in FreeBSD is owned by their employers, which can > become a legal nightmare and stop the project dead in its tracks > overnight. Aren't there any _lawyers_ working on this project? > As an example from "man jail" " AUTHORS The jail feature was written by Poul-Henning Kamp for R&D Associates http://www.rndassociates.com/ who contributed it to FreeBSD. " I would assume, but I do not know, that Poul-Henning Kamp was paid for his work. Then R&D Associates contributed it to FreeBSD. I think I have read here that Yahoo has also rolled stuff back into the main line source (I do not have first hand knowledge of this). Apple also rolls stuff back into the BSD source trees. They do so knowingly and with appropriate legalese Chad