From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 29 21:02:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id F0BDB1065672; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:02:33 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: ticso@cicely.de Message-ID: <20110329210233.GA18657@freebsd.org> References: <16FA7C02-86B0-46E6-A923-BC61357478FA@vicor.com> <1BC34FC3-7526-4DAA-964A-DDFD465DB830@bsdimp.com> <20110328110807.GA44745@freebsd.org> <4D90785C.1010802@freebsd.org> <20110329190057.GG34921@cicely7.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110329190057.GG34921@cicely7.cicely.de> Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , Andriy Gapon Subject: Re: New Boot-Loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:02:34 -0000 On Tue Mar 29 11, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 01:50:20PM -0400, Andrew Duane wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Andriy Gapon > > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 8:00 AM > > To: Alexander Best > > Cc: FreeBSD Hackers > > Subject: Re: New Boot-Loader > > > > Please note that graphical loaders are not very serial console friendly ;-) > > > > -- > > Andriy Gapon > > > > > > Amen, and we have a whole lot of platforms that are only serial consoles (and 9600 baud at that). > > Also, I like the letters instead of numbers for boot options, for those of us that have known for years that "s" is single user mode, "v" is verbose, etc.... > > This can hardly be an argument, because on serial consoles even > the current full-screen implementation isn't friendly at all. > One of the first things I always do is to disable beastie-start. > As long as it is still based on ficl and can be disabled to get > the traditional linemode I don't see a problem. actually it's quite easy. there are two kind of people: 1) the ones that like it plain and simple and 2) the ones that fancy eye candy lets have a boot loader for 1) which supports serial consoles and firewire stuff and verbose booting and all that stuff one for 2). > > -- > B.Walter http://www.bwct.de > Modbus/TCP Ethernet I/O Baugruppen, ARM basierte FreeBSD Rechner uvm. -- a13x