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From: Michael Beattie <mtbeedee@gmail.com>
To: "Halldor R. Haflidason" <titan@thoron.org>
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Subject: Re: starting services?
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On 11/21/05, Halldor R. Haflidason <titan@thoron.org> wrote:
> On Monday, 21 November 2005 at 15:11:35 +0100, martinko wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:17:01 +0800, Foo Ji-Haw wrote
> > > > i wonder why i cannot start for instance ssh with
> > > > /etc/rc.d/sshd start
> > > > but i always have to use
> > > > /etc/rc.d/sshd forcestart
> > > > and similarly for stop, status, etc.
> > > >
> > > > any ideas pls ??
> > > You have to add a line in /etc/rc.conf. I think it is
> > > samba_enable=3D"YES".
> >
> >
> > well, if you add sshd_enable=3D"YES", the service (always) starts on bo=
ot.
> >
> > i just want to start it manually and i wonder why it doesn't listen to =
"start"
> > argument but only "forcestart" and similarly for other commands i've go=
t to
> > use "force".
> >
> > anyone knows why pls ??
> >
> > martin
>
> Because when the system boots up it sends the 'start' argument to all the
> scripts in the rc.d directories, those scripts then check wether they
> should start or not. Force start simply overrides that check.
>
> Halldor

Then something's broken, no?  If the service isnt running and you send
it a "start" and it doesnt start, then that's bad.  You shouldnt need
to override some checks, it should do what it's commanded to do.