From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Apr 4 14:31:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.chartermi.net (060upc075.chartermi.net [24.213.60.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A7E37B718 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:31:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wrath@shianet.org) Received: from danrc ([24.213.24.167]) by mail.chartermi.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71004U47242L33562S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:31:06 -0400 Message-ID: <005001c0bd4e$8ee7f980$0201a8c0@fear.wrath.net> From: "Brian" To: References: Subject: Re: Chasing the kiddies (still) (was: Named Keep crashing) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:30:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org RE: Chasing the kiddies (was: Named Keep crashing) HTML sucks Hey, that's a great idea. But how are you going to tell them about that service? Security via obscurity? Yeah, that's like leaving your family photo album open on your desk and expecting no one to look at them because you didn't tell the people that the pictures were on your desk. As far as I'm concerned, a machine on the _internet_ is fair game. By being fair, I ask that someone can look. They can look, but by no means can they try to breach security. Otherwise, why the hell are you on the internet? I have a funny feeling you use Windows, and as a 32bit Windows advocate I'm beginning to wonder. I have another feeling that I now know why Windows gets a bad rap. If you do use Windows, I suggest you go hunting through Microsoft's pages and ntsecurity.net. One of my friends once said that you should be sanctioned bandwidth by the amount of intelligence you have. In other words, stupid people sit on 56k modems. I take it one step further, people who can't secure their machines shouldn't be given static IP addresses. In other words, if you've got an NT4 machine and still sit on Service Pack 3, you should be banned to DHCP with no lease for the rest of your life. -Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: Drew J. Weaver To: 'Robert Hough' ; FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: RE: Chasing the kiddies (was: Named Keep crashing) Because if I wanted you using a service on one of my boxes you'd know about it already, and wouldn't need to port scan my servers. -Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message