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Date:      Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:52:07 +0100
From:      nclayton@lehman.com
To:        scsi@freebsd.org
Subject:   Tapes written on 2.2.8 not readable on 3.2 (was Re: PR docs/6681)
Message-ID:  <19990601095207.S22307@lehman.com>
In-Reply-To: <199905312210.WAA04171@jhs.muc.de>; from Julian Stacey on Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 12:10:22AM %2B0200
References:  <19990531090735.Q22307@lehman.com> <199905312210.WAA04171@jhs.muc.de>

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Hi folks,

I'm not on the SCSI list myself, I'm forwarding this on behalf of Julian
Stacey.

I've been closing doc PRs, including docs/6681, and contacted Julian to see
if his PR was still relevant.

In what follows, "> >" is my message to Julian, ">" is his reply.  If any
of you SCSI gurus has the time could you take a look at this?

Cheers,

N

On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 12:10:22AM +0200, Julian Stacey wrote:
> > It's this (from the PR);
> > 
> >         I suggest you append some of this info:
> > 
> >           (ncr0:5:0): "DEC TLZ06     (C)DEC 0389" type 1 removable SCSI 2
> >           st0(ncr0:5:0): Sequential-Access
> >           st0(ncr0:5:0): 5.0 MB/s (200 ns, offset 8)
> >           density code 0x0,  drive empty
> > 
> >           DAT drive, does 2 Gig with 90M tape, or more with compression on.
> >           SIngle slot height.
>
> Works on 2.2.8 
> 
> >           (ncr0:6:0): "TANDBERG  TDC 3800 =04Y" type 1 removable SCSI 2
> >           st1(ncr0:6:0): Sequential-Access
> >           st1(ncr0:6:0): asynchronous.
> >           density code 0x0,  drive empty
> > 
> >           A 525 M QIC  drive,
> >           reads 45 & 60M & 150M & 525M,
> >           writes 150 & 525,
> >           does variable block sizing by default
> >                   (mt blocksize 512 to suppress that).
> >           Single slot height.
>
> Works on 2.2.8
> 3.2-RELEASE Seems to move the drive, but couldn't read tapes written 
> on 2.2.8
> 
> >           (aha0:3:0): "  " type 1 removable SCSI 1
> >           st0(aha0:3:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x5,  drive empty
> > 
> >           A Cipher QIC-24 SCSI, does 60 Meg
> >           Has a twist lever like a 5" floppy, & a pull out drawer.
> >           Double height ie 2 slots.
>
> Works on 2.2.8 
> 
> > I know that the switch to CAM broke some stuff, but I'm not sure how
> > extensive the breakage is -- if these aren't affected, and work with 
> > -stable/-current then I'll update the Handbook.
> 
> I have 2 TANDBERG TDC 3800 drives, one on 
>
> 	3.2-RELEASE
> 	sa0: <TANDBERG TDC 3800 =04Y> Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device 
> 	sa0: 4.032MB/s transfers (4.032MHz, offset 7)
>
> one on
>
> 	2.2.8-RELEASE
> 	(ncr0:6:0): "TANDBERG  TDC 3800 =04Y" type 1 removable SCSI 2
> 	st1(ncr0:6:0): Sequential-Access 
> 	st1(ncr0:6:0): asynchronous.
> 	density code 0x0,  drive empty
> 
> Seems to me on brief experiment,
>  3.2 can write data that 2.2.8 can read,
> but 2.2.8 tapes are not readable on 3.2 system
> (a disaster for anyone relying on backup tapes (not me thankfully)).
> 
> Anyway, that was just a quick check,
> maybe it's to do with the blocksize 512 stuff,
> but looks like this is a problem.
> 
> As I have 2 drives, 1 on 2.2.8 & 1 on 3.2, I may be uniquely useful
> for test purposes for scsi team, feel free to pass my name along.
> I am not worried about installing current on the 3.2 Tandberg box,
> except that can't spare too much time for it.
> I am not prepared to destabilise my other main 2.2.8 Tandberg box though :-)
> 
> In light of this nasty suprise I have cancelled plan to upgrade my 2.2.8
> main  system (that has the DEC TLZ06 DAT) until this problem is solved.
> Once it's solved for Tandberg, I can try.
> 
> The system with the Cipher QIC-24 will be upgraded to 3.2 in about 2 weeks.
> & I can let you know about that.
> 
> What was intended as a docu. upgrade has become a warning of peril :-)
> Thanks, I'm glad to know, let me know if I can help,
> feel free to cut/paste forward to scsi@ (not on that list myself).

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