From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 1 10:42:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46EDC16A4DE for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 10:42:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tyler@bleepsoft.com) Received: from zeus.lunarpages.com (zeus.lunarpages.com [216.193.211.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DBA43D4C for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 10:42:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tyler@bleepsoft.com) Received: from cpe-24-26-238-91.satx.res.rr.com ([24.26.238.91] helo=[192.168.250.100]) by zeus.lunarpages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.52) id 1GJ6Ty-0002ZM-Er; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 03:42:42 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: <20060830232723.GU10101@multics.mit.edu> <98f5a8830608301731s2b0663e3g94b0bd32f8a06a78@mail.gmail.com> <950621ad0608310654h78ae0023g346abd108815ae72@mail.gmail.com> <20060831110112.J82634@hub.org> <1157040361.44f708e9d119d@imp3-g19.free.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <25AD0859-8674-4F1F-A3B0-50A092245C54@bleepsoft.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "R. Tyler Ballance" Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 05:42:21 -0500 To: Gilbert Fernandes X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - zeus.lunarpages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bleepsoft.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: miros-discuss@mirbsd.org, misc list , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, netbsd-users@netbsd.org Subject: Re: The future of NetBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 10:42:46 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > It would require people to not only do it for the sake of their > projects, > but for the whole BSD people. Even those who really piss you off in > other projects. > > Because someday, those projects will live on without us. We'll pass on > like everyone. > > Am I alone thinking this ? You're completely right, diversity always hurts an ecosystem *rolls eyes* Let's be serious here, each of the mainstream BSDs have their places, and I'm glad they're separate. I'd run OpenBSD on a soekris box on the fringe of my network, FreeBSD on my 4-way Opteron interactive server, and NetBSD on my Tamagotchi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Tamagotchi). They all have their places, by merging them you lose a lot of the focus of keeping them separate. Besides some largely impractical "good feeling" that we'd derive from unifying the projects, there's absolutely no reason to unify them. And to be frank, some people you don't want to work together, there's a reason DragonFlyBSD forked from FreeBSD, and there's a reason OpenBSD forked from NetBSD; not to say this is a bad thing at all, but trying to make people get along to volunteer their time on a project is outright retarded. Developers who like the goals and team of the FreeBSD project will gravitate that way, same with OpenBSD, NetBSD and DragonFlyBSD. NetBSD isn't having trouble because of OpenBSD forking from it, or from FreeBSD's recent innovations, NetBSD is having trouble because of actions taken by those within the project, unification accomplishes nothing in the realm of practicality. Cheers, - -R. Tyler Ballance -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) iD4DBQFE+A6PqO6nEJfroRsRArKFAJjgWGbVS3w1BmmYPThRTRoTWxLvAJsEpzpK 4ZUDjBGTprGcNsOgYYrszw== =SMpu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----