From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sun Jan 5 18:57:13 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55F71E2714 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2020 18:57:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from devin@shxd.cx) Received: from shxd.cx (mail.shxd.cx [64.201.244.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47rSYh3rsvz4cW7; Sun, 5 Jan 2020 18:57:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from devin@shxd.cx) Received: from [76.77.180.168] (port=52312 helo=devins-mbp.lan) by shxd.cx with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ioAC7-0003MI-7t; Sun, 05 Jan 2020 10:00:07 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] BSD-Licensed Combinatorics library/utility From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: <17EEA2EB-D963-449F-81FE-E18DD62B2BF6@bayofrum.net> Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 10:57:02 -0800 Cc: Devin Teske , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Cy Schubert , Lars Engels , "Julian H. Stacey" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <51AD9B50-9488-45CE-878F-EE97F6914E49@freebsd.org> <201912121119.xBCBJ2Jo017249@fire.js.berklix.net> <20191212130825.GJ5400@e.0x20.net> <72753F50-8810-43C1-BDDD-E541278A146F@cschubert.com> <17EEA2EB-D963-449F-81FE-E18DD62B2BF6@bayofrum.net> To: Chris Rees X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Sender: devin@shxd.cx X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47rSYh3rsvz4cW7 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of devin@shxd.cx has no SPF policy when checking 64.201.244.140) smtp.mailfrom=devin@shxd.cx X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.51 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; IP_SCORE(0.10)[ip: (0.28), ipnet: 64.201.240.0/20(0.14), asn: 36734(0.11), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.75)[0.749,0]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.97)[0.967,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[dteske@freebsd.org,devin@shxd.cx]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36734, ipnet:64.201.240.0/20, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[dteske@freebsd.org,devin@shxd.cx]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2020 18:57:13 -0000 > On Jan 5, 2020, at 09:26, Chris Rees wrote: >=20 > Hi Devin, >=20 > There are many examples where utilities have moved from ports to base- = portsnap being one I can think of. >=20 > I don't think that ports is really a dead zone for software- pkg = install -y cmb takes around seven seconds, and I would struggle to = imagine that anyone uses a system with no ports installed. >=20 > The argument would obviously change if you wanted to use it in = bsdinstall or similar- is that why you're frustrated here? >=20 1. Build option survey for testing different combinations of options = when building base 2. Building ports built with different combinations of options when = available Both of those situations may preclude having any packages installed. =E2=80=94=20 Devin=