From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jun 3 14:18:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04887 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:18:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gateman.zeus.leitch.com (gateman.zeus.leitch.com [204.187.61.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04647 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 14:17:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from woods@tap.zeus.leitch.com) Received: from zeus.leitch.com (tap.zeus.leitch.com [204.187.61.10]) by gateman.zeus.leitch.com (8.8.5/8.7.3/1.0) with ESMTP id RAA08964; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:16:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brain.zeus.leitch.com (brain.zeus.leitch.com [204.187.61.32]) by zeus.leitch.com (8.7.5/8.7.3/1.0) with ESMTP id RAA25489; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from woods@localhost) by brain.zeus.leitch.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19994; Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:16:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from woods@tap.zeus.leitch.com) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 17:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199806032116.RAA19994@brain.zeus.leitch.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: woods@zeus.leitch.com (Greg A. Woods) To: Ty Sarna Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hardware monitor device drivers / kernel support (eg. LM78) Newsgroups: netbsd.tech.kern In-Reply-To: Ty Sarna's message of "Wed, June 3, 1998 15:59:49 -0500" regarding "Re: hardware monitor device drivers / kernel support (eg. LM78)" id <199806032059.PAA02826@fezzik.endicor.com> References: <199806031952.PAA19479@brain.zeus.leitch.com> <199806032059.PAA02826@fezzik.endicor.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.45 under Emacs 20.2.1 Reply-To: woods@zeus.leitch.com (Greg A. Woods) Organization: Planix, Inc.; Toronto, Ontario; Canada Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Wed, June 3, 1998 at 15:59:49 (-0500), Ty Sarna wrote: ] > Subject: Re: hardware monitor device drivers / kernel support (eg. LM78) > > This is the problem with sysctl: it really wants to be a filesystem, > IMO, but there is sufficient political opposition I don't think it'll > happen. > > In more detail: sysctl really wants to deal with named rather than > numbered things, and wants to do that with more dynamicism than the > current sysctl offers. We already have a resonably good system for > managing a hierarchichal, named system of things, which can change at > run time (namely, files). I don't see why it wouldn't be in the best > UN*X traditions to use that existing subsystem for sysctls. But the > wrong people do :-( I agree 101% with your analysis. Well, let's put it this way: If nobody comes up with something entirely different and better and provided I don't run into any snags that'll eat up my allocated project time, I'm going to do both because *I* want to use a kernfs interface, but I'll do at least the kernel side of a sysctl extension just to keep those that don't like kernfs happy and I do want to get the result into the common code base of all the *BSDs so that someone else can support all the other weird and wonderful motherboards and chips available now and in the future (because I won't likely do so, at least not as a volunteer project). -- Greg A. Woods +1 416 443-1734 VE3TCP Planix, Inc. ; Secrets of the Weird To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message