From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 17:35:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87EAD1065672 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:35:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Received: from shell.msen.com (msen.com [148.59.86.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0BA8FC28 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:35:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) X-Sent-To: Received: from [10.10.20.97] ([205.171.51.78]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.msen.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA3H8fLI061174 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:08:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Message-ID: <490F3016.1020103@msen.com> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:08:38 -0500 From: Mark Moellering User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200811031138.38016.tabthorpe@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200811031138.38016.tabthorpe@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=205.171.51.78; envelope-from= Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=205.171.51.78; helo=[10.10.20.97] X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: shell.msen.com; Sender-ip: 205.171.51.78; Sender-helo: [10.10.20.97]; ) Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:35:56 -0000 Thomas Abthorpe wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On November 2, 2008 08:01:38 pm FBSD1 wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chad Perrin >> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:40 PM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? >> >> >> Ok now that you have all let off steam about the off topic of desktop >> verses ms/windows lets return the meaning of the original poster. >> >> >> I spent this weekend playing with kde4 as root and had problems with it >> not working. >> Could not change the displayed time to from 20.00.00 to 8:00PM >> When I changed the resolution from the default to 800x600 and the refresh >> rate to 60.0 many of the applications did not auto fit to the new setting >> and the change would not carry over between logons. >> Some times the desktop just froze up and had to do alt-ctrl-backspace to >> force return to command line. >> When I changed the font type and size to use, the change would not carry >> over between logons. >> Could not find a way to remove items from the menu. >> Some icons would not display at all. >> Koffice was missing. >> Not all the application use the new window format which has the option to >> return to menu that launched it. Only has x out to return to desktop >> screen. >> >> Bottom line is imho kde4 is not stable, is not ready for general use. Needs >> more development and testing. Should only be contained in the development >> ports category. >> >> >> > > I submit to the court of pulic opinion that KDE4 *IS* stable on FreeBSD. I > would encourage you to check out the following resources > > http://freebsd.kde.org > http://wiki.freebsd.org/KDE4 > > Certainly, if my word is not good enough, the nice folks over at PC-BSD, > http://www.pcbsd.org, sure have bundled up a nice package based on FreeBSD 7 > and KDE4. > > > Thomas > > I have used KDE-4 While some of the graphics are much better looking, I thought it lacked some functionality. These are minor issues but several of the old (KDE 3.5.X) control panel options were not available (or I couldn't find them) and figuring out where to set certain options was not that intuitive for me. I never found a central location for settings, it seemed that each control (menu, taskbar, etc) had it's own 'right click' sort of settings page. The small thing that truly bugged me is that I normally only display programs for the current desktop in the taskbar, but there was a small control that you could select that would display all windows on all desktops (I forget its official name). I used it alot to make sure I didn't forget something running, etc. I couldn't find this taskbar control in KDE 4. The other problems I had dealt with thrid-party programs. There is no (at least as of a few months ago) K3B for KDE-4 and no FreeBSD port of Ktorrent for KDE-4. I tried the linux port but had lots of problems. Also, to start you need to give an explicit path, something like /usr/local/kde-4/bin/startkde in the .xinitrc file. (at least I could never get anything else to work) I ultimately changed back to the 3.5.9(?) version from packages. I am using an intel quad core running amd64 FreeBSD 7.0 Release Hope this helps. Mark Moellering