From owner-freebsd-audit Sun Jun 3 0:49:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-audit@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C0B37B401; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 00:49:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (kuriyama@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f537nkf13934; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:49:46 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 16:49:42 +0900 Message-ID: <7mlmnac8a1.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: i18n@FreeBSD.ORG, audit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2CFR: locale names renaming In-Reply-To: <20010602143139.A43237@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010602040851.A34526@nagual.pp.ru> <86ofs7thvy.fsf@gradius.wdb.co.kr> <20010602143139.A43237@nagual.pp.ru> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.4.1 (Stand By Me) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-audit@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:31:58 +0000 (UTC), Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > It is possible (via symlinks) but I don't think it is good idea, even for > transition period. If we preserve compatibility, people never change their > environment LANG variables, so programs which parse LANG directly will be > in trouble since in each and every such programs we need to add both > variants. So there is no advantage of using new scheme since old scheme > must be coded each time too. We already have too many locale changes in > -current to make it is already incompatible with 4.3 locale, so yet one > incompatible change don't play role here. Hmm, it seems you are saying funny joke. :-) Making a transition period is usual method in our project and it works well before now. I don't think people *never* change their LANG environment. We can announce this serious change via web, release note and HEADS UP posting to mailing list. Additionally, we can deploy this new locale name on the magazine. We have some magazines which is specific to FreeBSD, *BSD and UNIX in Japan. If we have enough transition period, we can write articles on that magazines and many readers can know that news. Changing without transition period is not acceptable at least for me. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-audit" in the body of the message