From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 08:12:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0476106576F for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 08:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ragnar@gatorhole.com) Received: from maple.lonn.org (maple.lonn.org [109.228.153.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE558FC12 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 08:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.32.123] (unknown [85.24.141.131]) (Authenticated sender: ragnar@gatorhole.com) by maple.lonn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 681F7735C5B; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 10:12:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <50446681.2080307@gatorhole.com> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 10:12:49 +0200 From: Ragnar Lonn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120827 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Young References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Load testing knocks out network X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 08:12:53 -0000 Hi Andy, It sounds as if your problem is more related to the NIC driver then, I guess. I just realized something else that I forgot to mention regarding crash/freeze causes: network buffers. It's an out-of-memory problem, but a bit more specific. When you have a ton of open TCP connections to a host, that host will allocate a lot of (kernel) memory for TCP transmit/receive buffers. In newer *Linux* kernels, this memory is being allocated in an adaptive manner - i.e. the kernel only allocates a small amount of memory to each TCP buffer, and then increases it as necessary (per connection, depending on transfer speed and network delay to the other peer). Older kernels, however, will allocate a fixed amount per socket, which can quickly eat up all available kernel memory. I think I actually discussed this with FreeBSD developers a while ago (on this list even?), and they told me the FreeBSD kernel can only allocate max 2GB of kernel memory. I don't know if it allocates network buffers dynamically (i.e. as much memory as is necessary for each socket/connection) but 2GB is not a lot if each connection uses up e.g. 100K buffer memory. If you have e.g. 1GB available to network buffers, it means a max limit of 10k simultaneous connections on a server, regardless of how much memory it has. Regards, /Ragnar On 09/03/2012 06:14 AM, Andy Young wrote: > Hi Ragnar, > > Thank you for the reply. That makes a lot of sense. I think the > resources at risk had to do with the low level details of the network > card. I experimented tonight with bumping the hw.igb.rxd and > hw.igb.txd tunable parameters of the NIC driver to their max value of > 4096 (the default was 256). This seems to have resolved the issue. > Before bumping their values, my load test was crashing the network at > about 350 simultaneous connections. The behavior I witnessed was the > application server (jetty) would seize up first and I could see it was > no longer responding through my ssh connections. If I killed it off > right away, all of the connections got closed and everything went back > to being fine. If I left it in that state for 30 seconds or so, the > system became unrecoverable. The connections remained open according > to netstat even after I had closed the server and client processes. > Short of rebooting, nothing I did would close the connections down. > After bumping the rxd and txd parameters as well as > kern.ipc.nmbclusters, the problem seems to have gone away. I can now > successfully simulate over 800 simultaneous connections and it hasn't > crashed since. To be honest, I don't know what the rxd and txd > parameters do but it seems to have helped. > > Andy > > On Sep 2, 2012 1:58 AM, "Ragnar Lonn" > wrote: > > > Hi Andy, > > > > I work for an online load testing service (loadimpact.com > ) and what we > > see is that the most common cause when a server crashes during a load > test, > > is that it runs out of some vital system resource. Usually system memory, > > but network connections (sockets/file descriptors) is also a likely > cause. > > > > You should have gotten some kind of error messages in the system log, but > > if the problem is easily repeatable I would set up monitoring of at least > > memory and file descriptors, and see if you are near the limits when the > > machine freezes. > > > > Regards, > > > > /Ragnar > > On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Andy Young > wrote: > > I read through the driver man page, which is a great source of > information. I see I'm using the Intel igb driver and it supports > three tunables. Could I have exceeded the number of receive > descriptors? What would the effect of this number being too low > be? What about the Adaptive Interrupt Moderation? > > To clarify, I was simulating about 800 users simultaneously > uploading files when the crash occurred. > > Thanks for any help or insights!! > > Andy > > NAME > igb -- Intel(R) PRO/1000 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet adapter > driver > > LOADER TUNABLES > Tunables can be set at the loader(8) prompt before booting > the kernel or > stored in loader.conf(5). > > hw.igb.rxd > Number of receive descriptors allocated by the > driver. The > default value is 256. The minimum is 80, and the > maximum is > 4096. > > hw.igb.txd > Number of transmit descriptors allocated by the > driver. The > default value is 256. The minimum is 80, and the > maximum is > 4096. > > hw.igb.enable_aim > If set to 1, enable Adaptive Interrupt Moderation. > The default > is to enable Adaptive Interrupt Moderation. > > > On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Andy Young > > wrote: > > Last night one our servers went offline while I was load > testing it. When I got to the datacenter to check on it, the > server seemed perfectly fine. Everything was running on it, > there were no panics or any other sign of a hard crash. The > only problem is the network was unreachable. I couldn't > connect to the box even from a laptop directly attached to the > ethernet port. I couldn't connect to anything from the box > either. It was if the network controller had seized up. I > restarted netif and it didn't make a difference. Rebooting the > machine however, solved the issue and everything went back to > working great. I restarted the load testing and reproduced the > problem twice more this morning so at least its repeatable. It > feels like a network controller / driver issue to me for a > couple reasons. First, the problem affects the entire system. > We're running FreeBSD 9 with about a half dozen jails. Most of > the jails are running Apache but the one I was load testing > was running Jetty. However, if it was my application code > crashing I would expect the problem to at least be isolated to > the jail that hosts it. Instead, the entire machine and all > jails in it lose access to the network. > > Apart from not being able to access the network, I don't see > any other signs of problems. This is the first major problem > I've had to debug in FreeBSD so I'm not a debugging expert by > any means. There are no error messages in /var/log/messages or > dmesg apart from syslogd not being able to reach the > network. If anyone has ideas on where I can look for more > evidence of what is going wrong, I would really appreciate it. > > We're running FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3. The network controller > is a Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection version - 2.2.5 > configured with 6 ips using aliases, five of which are used > for jails. > > Thank you for the help!! > > Andy > > > > > > -- > Andrew Young > Mosaic Storage Systems, Inc > http://www.mosaicarchive.com/ > > Follow us on: > Twitter , Facebook > , Google Plus > , > Pinterest > > > > > -- > Andrew Young > Mosaic Storage Systems, Inc > http://www.mosaicarchive.com/ > > Follow us on: > Twitter , Facebook > , Google Plus > , > Pinterest >