From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 13 16:50:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD35E16A5E8 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2312343D55 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:50:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so982116uge for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:50:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=XNj8IdCmUoZ+H1IrzGExBIGKKH93el5VmfMfhqgPKPCBd5drO4gclIXsJbse9FxqImeL4EsjqexMVNeF4X0jWzihLRHSeg0xCHsocUq5XAkuWJgO4zkhddaMvxf+sCa2J5oSKxW3RcCWGUPXZr/+FAR53hr6uYSo690+/g9tyZU= Received: by 10.67.30.6 with SMTP id h6mr8385640ugj.1163436632143; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.236.1 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:50:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90611130850j342a937dmdde6d826258ca8fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:50:32 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 982224faaf696166 Subject: now from way-out in left field X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:50:33 -0000 So I know you can open up 4 or more virtual desktops in X. And I know you can open up any number of terminals. But I sort of like the nice clean look and feel of a plain old vtty for many tasks. Unfortuately, X, it would seem, steals all the F-keys, and the screen it would seem. Is there any slight of hand I can do to switch between X on vtty1 and my other enabled vtty's? I've also had KDE lock up solid (as I result I'm evaluating gnome), and that would be a good method to fix things, instead of the power switch, I would think. Obviously, I've marked myself as a noob, and not to step on toes, but ctrl-alt-del on winNT's generally does get one the task manager, unless you are bluescreened. If I'm on a tty I feel reasonalby sure I can kill anything locked. Unfortunately, the modern world needs X sometimes, lynx only goes so far, but then I'm at X's mercy, follow me? Ok, I'll shut up now. Have mercy on my opinions ;) Steve