Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:27:34 +0100 From: "Remko Lodder" <remko@elvandar.org> To: "Robert Storey" <y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net>, <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: bypassing a proxy server Message-ID: <AKEOILKOBJGIMOMHPBBLIELLCAAA.remko@elvandar.org> In-Reply-To: <20040315201004.21d1a6f1.y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net>
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Hi,
questions are never stupid, you did some research at forehand that makes you
smarter
then others, but they are also not stupid.
You want to have portforwarding on the Win2k machine to your fbsd system,
(with
a dedicated internal ip), it maps connections from the extern ip on the
win2k
machine to your machine and back, at least that is done in most
firewallsetups including
mine(bsd based so no windows actually). But it might be possible to do so, i
cannot
imagine that there isn't a tool for windows which does the same.
The hub setup won't work, you should never get a ip addr through that hub,
in my
humble opinion.
Also i cannot see the logic of your anonymous ftp server, be aware that
there
are risks, it might be breached, there might be warez and other shit on it
then,
make sure you asked permission for that, before they kick you.
So Portmapping is your answer i think
Cheers
--
Kind regards,
Remko Lodder
Elvandar.org/DSINet.org
www.mostly-harmless.nl Dutch community for helping newcomers on the
hackerscene
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]Namens Robert Storey
Verzonden: maandag 15 maart 2004 20:10
Aan: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Onderwerp: bypassing a proxy server
As some of you may recall, I'm engaged in an ongoing saga trying to set
up a FreeBSD machine on a school's network. The school is Windows only -
the administration knows nothing about FreeBSD (or Linux), and it's up
to me to prove to them that FBSD is worth teaching to the students. Due
to my lobbying, the school has given me one old computer to play with,
and I have installed FreeBSD on it. But there are problems. The biggest
is that the gateway machine is Windows 2000 and it's running a proxy
server (to keep the students from visiting naughty web sites). So the
FreeBSD machine cannot get through to the Internet with http, though the
Windows machines can. On the other hand, the FBSD box can get through
the gateway with ssh and ftp (though performance is sluggish, even with
a T1 line). Furthermore, I want the FreeBSD machine to run an anonymous
ftp server. Forgive the crappy drawing (I never claimed to be an
artist), but this is how the network looks at the moment (except that
there are 10 Windows clients, not 2):
|-------|
|windows|
|------------| |------| |client |
| Win2000 | | |----|-------|
T1--------|proxy server|----|switch|
| & gateway | | |----|-------|
|------------| |---|--| |windows|
| |client |
| |-------|
|
|-----|----|
| FBSD ftp |
| server |
|----------|
The problem is that this doesn't work. People from outside the network
can't get through to the FBSD ftp server. Clearly, that Win2000 proxy
server is an evil machine. When I last discussed this problem (on this
list), Matthew wrote back and offered me a pretty thorough explanation
of the problem, which is posted here:
http://freebsd.rambler.ru/bsdmail/freebsd-questions_2002/msg34253.html
OK, I'm convinced, running a ftp server from a NAT gateway is a
disaster. So I'm looking for a way around it. I have an old unused hub,
and I've been thinking that this might be a possible solution (sort of
like a DMZ?)...
|-------|
|windows|
|------------| |------| |client |
| Win2000 | | |----|-------|
T1--HUB---|proxy server|----|switch|
| | & gateway | | |----|-------|
| |------------| |------| |windows|
| |client |
| |-------|
|
|----|-----|
| FBSD ftp |
| server |
|----------|
The only problem I see here is I don't know how I'm going to get an
address for the ftp server. The Win2000 gateway has a static address, it
dishes out addresses to the clients with dhcp. The NAT addresses are of
course internal addresses like 10.0.0.12, but the school does own a
block of 64 static addresses. If I simply stick a hub in front of the
gateway machine, all traffic to the gateway will also be sent to the ftp
server - I know that will cause packet collisions, but I can live with
the crappy performance because it's a very low traffic environment. My
main concern is simply how to assign an address to the ftp server
without disconnecting the gateway machine.
I'm sorry if I'm asking a dumb question, but I'm a novice when it comes
to setting up networks. I haven't found anything on Google that deals
with this particular question, and there is nobody around here that I
can ask. Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Robert
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