From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 15 17:58:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA04206 for chat-outgoing; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 17:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04189 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 17:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA08401; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:25:43 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199706160055.KAA08401@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: To UNIX or not to UNIX ;-). Was: PPP problems. In-Reply-To: <8841.866419524@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Jun 15, 97 05:05:24 pm" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:25:43 +0930 (CST) Cc: joelh@gnu.ai.mit.edu, molter@logic.it, adrian@obiwan.psinet.net.au, vas@vas.tomsk.su, chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard stands accused of saying: > > This is all well and good, and we've been here before several times > over the years, but who is going to do the work? Who is going to > write all this nifty GUI stuff which takes over the job done by all of > Windows' nifty GUI stuff for installing and configuring the system? > > You? :-) Me, with any luck. Last exam for this semester today. Yay! Now, if anyone wants to fund me for this exercise... 8) > what UNIX needs to succeed, but when it comes down to "OK, so who will > champion this? Who will code up a cohesive framework for others to > follow?" those with the biggest ideas all retreat back into their > corners mumbling things about lacking either time or skill. ... and I am beginning to suspect, when they _do_ shoulder the herculean task and start to mov forwards, the response from the rabble is so underwhelming that they give up anyway. Note I have received a total of 0 (zzero) responses to my most recent posting to the -config mailing list regarding the architectural prototype for the server side of the configuration framework. Am I supposed to take this as a sign of encouragement? -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[