From owner-freebsd-small Thu Oct 19 6:13:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from nrpc-22.netrake.net (403217B2.ptr.dia.nextlink.net [64.50.23.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EB937B4C5 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 06:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netrake.com (localhost.netrake.net [127.0.0.1]) by nrpc-22.netrake.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA38484; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 08:08:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jimj@netrake.com) Message-ID: <39EEF23F.F2CD64C6@netrake.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 08:08:15 -0500 From: Jim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Judd=90=90?= Organization: Netrake Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Bishop Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, Greg Lehey , dr@dursec.com, dalcocer@home.com, abc@bsdi.com, glaess@element5.de, small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: picobsd on cdrom References: <20001014161651.W1489@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20001019105640.00b17910@gid.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bob Bishop wrote: > At 02:20 19/10/00 -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > > Four or five different build directories in /usr/src/release/picobsd, > > > most of them broken. The FreeBSD kernel has bloated considerably > > > since 3.0, and I expect it to continue to do so. I think that it > > > won't be long before a single (1.44 MB) floppy PicoBSD will not be > > > possible with a -CURRENT or -RELEASE. > > > >I suggested this a bit earlier, but I'll try again. Perhaps the > >PicoBSD project ought to standardize on the 2.2.x system. Is there > >something that happened in 3.x or 4.x that is applicable to PicoBSD? > > Plenty. I'm looking at picobsd on -current right now, because I need USB > modem support. While the standard pico builds are nice as templates, anyone > using pico seriously should expect to do a custom build. My experience is > that for what I'm doing (routers, serial console servers and the like) size > isn't an issue, but I do prune kernel options and drivers ruthlessly. > > In any case, the 1.44MB floppy is an endangered species. CDROM booting is > somewhat hit-and-miss, but compact flash and net boots are viable > alternatives in many applications and don't have the size restriction. > > I think it would be a big mistake to fix pico on an old base release. > > -- > Bob Bishop +44 (0)118 977 4017 > rb@gid.co.uk fax +44 (0)118 989 4254 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message Agreed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message