From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 20 05:11:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5DE16A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 05:11:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail024.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail024.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A4043D1F for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 05:11:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from syncman@optusnet.com.au) Received: from webmail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (webmail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.236])i6K5AYL12065; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:10:34 +1000 Message-Id: <200407200510.i6K5AYL12065@mail024.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [203.108.78.38] as user syncman@optusnet.com.au by webmail.optusnet.com.au with HTTP; From: Andrew Sinclair To: Robert Storey , FreeBSD Chat Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 15:10:34 +1000 Subject: Re: [OT] Apple's contribution to OSX X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 05:11:50 -0000 > Robert Storey wrote: > > Dear All, > > First off, apologies for this off-topic post, but I think this is the > only place I'm likely to get an intelligent (and well-informed) answer > to my question. I tried searching the web, but found a confusing and > contradictory bunch of poorly-informed opinions, which wasn't helpful. > > I'm writing a news article about Apple's contribution to open source. > In > particular, I'm interested in finding out the following: > > 1) How much of FreeBSD did Apple actually use in OSX? If I'm not > mistaken, the Darwin kernel is not related to FreeBSD in any way (or is > that wrong?). Basically, what exactly did Apple gain from FreeBSD? > This is the 2nd time this question has been asked on the lists. I'll be sending an E- Mail to Apple Computers tomorrow. As for the other two questions: 2) A FreeBSD core team member should be able to answer this. 3) Only Darwin is open source. Mac OS X is basically proprietary extensions to Darwin and is thus closed source. This includes the GUI and its libraries. - Regards Andrew Sinclair